Founding fathers view of government

[Nay_Sayer]

Do you agree with them firing the coach who did a silent prayer in Washington at his high school? I mean I'm an atheist but is that too far?

He should have been drawn and quartered. Thanks for asking.

RAmen

[onlinebiker]

Government is overhead.

It generates no income and injests much.

So less is more.

[The Grand Nudger]

Do you agree with them firing the coach who did a silent prayer in Washington at his high school? I mean I'm an atheist but is that too far?

I don't know who the them is or what the story was there.

[Belacqua]

I saw a facebook post quoting rand paul as saying that the founding fathers saw the government as a necessary evil that they wanted as little to do with as possible. Isn't this first of all, a really pessimistic way of describing such a beneficial infrastructure like a Government? Obviously, much of our advancement in science and culture has to do with a unified government. But I'm mostly wondering if any one here has some insight on if that statement by paul was even accurate or not?

As I understand it, the original guys disagreed a lot on this issue. They debated and eventually compromised. Some wanted the states to have more individual power, and others wanted federal power. 

I guess that argument is ongoing.

[AFTT47]

I don't know about Rand Paul's specific quote but individuals of all persuasions have fabricated founding father quotes to further their agendas. I would take any such claims with a grain of salt without references to a verifiable source such as the Library of Congress. They should have no problem providing such references to real quotes.

[Angrboda]

Like most things Rand Paul says, I suspect he pulled that from his puckered little asshole.

[The Grand Nudger]

It's more a coordinated lie than a personal tick or offhand falsehood of his own devising. It supports a political ideology best summed up by grover norquist

I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.

It's a revision of the past in service of a goal for the future. Deregulation, tax breaks. Thing is, all this time that we've been quietly happily and contentedly building a massive and powerful federal government, and using it strongly the whole while... taxes and regulations have swung back and forth wildly. We don't really need (and have never needed) a small government to accomplish the task. We'd plug along until the civil war, and tax nothing and damned near everything at different points along the way, until lincoln established the first federal income tax, and what would become the IRS. It lasted ten years - then it was dropped..and all the while we continued to grow our government to meet the practical challenges it faced.

There's never really been any disagreement, from the government, over giving more power to the government. It's truly bipartisan and always has been - but pretending otherwise is just another grift they've decided to run on their base.

[Ranjr]

When dad was in college, he read a book.  It made him feel good about his selfishness and lack of empathy.  So good, he named me after the writer.  Later, he set me up as his antigovernmental successor.  I hate the government so much, I devote my life to it.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Government is overhead.

Government is the only reason we have civilization 

It generates no income and injests much.

It generates something more important then income and anything it takes to generate that is worth it 

So less is more.

Less is death

[jasonelijah]

Has anyone seen Blood Simple? My question on this film is why did the cowboy guy try to end up killing the couple at the end? He succeeds with Ray, why pretend to kill them and then really kill them?