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June 25, 2021 at 7:28 pm
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(June 25, 2021 at 10:59 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: (June 25, 2021 at 1:34 am)Ravenshire Wrote: You're tilting at straw men. Atheism has exactly fuck all to do with knowledge. Anyone who does not believe in gawd(s) is an atheist. That includes you. Agnosticism says exactly fuck all about belief. It's about the knowledge position.
I do not believe in any gawds. That makes me an atheist. I do not claim to know that there are none. There simply isn't enough evidence to support the claim the theists make. That makes me agnostic as well as atheist. This is the reality of atheism. Like most everything else about humans, there's a spectrum.
Welcome to reality, Frank.
Is English, like Latin, a dead language?
If you think there are no people who assert "there are no gods"...you are detached from reality. No way you can welcome me to reality from where you are.
You continue to demand we adhere to definitions from 70 fucking years ago, so I ask again, is English a dead language. Until you can respond intelligently to that question, further discussion is absolutely pointless since we will only be talking past each other.
By the way, you're assuming a position I do not hold, and arguing against it. This is a straw man argument, and while I understand you enjoy tilting at straw men, it's frowned on as a debate technique.
(June 25, 2021 at 12:17 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: I would MUCH, MUCH rather everyone state exactly what their position is...in clear words, rather than using a descriptor on which I've never seen universal agreement.
Oh, bull shit. I tried that and you responded by straw manning me.
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 25, 2021 at 7:52 pm
My position is sixty eight!
ALL DAY LONG!!!!!!!!!
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 25, 2021 at 8:09 pm
(June 25, 2021 at 7:52 pm)no one Wrote: My position is sixty eight!
ALL DAY LONG!!!!!!!!!
Because when you get to 69 you find a frog in your throat?
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June 26, 2021 at 5:37 am
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(June 25, 2021 at 5:46 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I guess if you keep spamming different boards with the same droll shit, it'll eventually stick somewhere.
GL!
Thank you for the good wishes, but I do not do spamming.
Theists think comments calling attention to their blind guesses about the REALITY...is spamming.
Atheists think comments calling attention to the fact that they do as much blind guessing as theists...is spamming.
Oh, well.
(June 25, 2021 at 7:28 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: (June 25, 2021 at 10:59 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: If you think there are no people who assert "there are no gods"...you are detached from reality. No way you can welcome me to reality from where you are.
You continue to demand we adhere to definitions from 70 fucking years ago, so I ask again, is English a dead language. Until you can respond intelligently to that question, further discussion is absolutely pointless since we will only be talking past each other.
By the way, you're assuming a position I do not hold, and arguing against it. This is a straw man argument, and while I understand you enjoy tilting at straw men, it's frowned on as a debate technique.
(June 25, 2021 at 12:17 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: I would MUCH, MUCH rather everyone state exactly what their position is...in clear words, rather than using a descriptor on which I've never seen universal agreement.
Oh, bullshit. I tried that and you responded by straw manning me. At no point have I ever...EVER...demanded that anyone adhere to definitions from 70 fucking years ago...asshole. NEVER. Here or anywhere else where I post.
So take you strawman shove it where the sun does not shine.
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June 26, 2021 at 6:51 am
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You come up with a brand new way to get people on the internet to dislike you every time you join a new board? Now that's real talent, lol. Far be it from me to suggest that you've got this hilariously wrong, but what do you think an atheist has to guess about? Atheism is a comment on personal belief, most people know whether or not they believe in something. Here, lemme show you. Do you believe in gods, frank? Imps, demons, elves...flying horses.....sea monsters.....cyclops, dryads...witches, do you believe in witches?
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 26, 2021 at 7:19 am
(June 26, 2021 at 6:51 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You come up with a brand new way to get people on the internet to dislike you every time you join a new board? Now that's real talent, lol. Far be it from me to suggest that you've got this hilariously wrong, but what do you think an atheist has to guess about? Atheism is a comment on personal belief, most people know whether or not they believe in something. Here, lemme show you. Do you believe in gods, frank? Imps, demons, elves...flying horses.....sea monsters.....cyclops, dryads...witches, do you believe in witches?
I do not do any "believing", Nudger. I've mentioned that a dozen times. Wake the hell up. If I do make any guesses...I designate them guesses, because that is what they are. I do not call them "beliefs" in an attempt to disguise the fact that they are guesses.
What I think is that EVERYONE who chooses to use the word "atheist" as a descriptor believes (guesses) that there are no gods...or that it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one. But most people who use the descriptor atheist are not truthful enough to simply acknowledge that they do "believe" there are no gods...or that they do "believe" that it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one.
That I have also mentioned a dozen times.
What the hell is there about that you cannot understand?
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June 26, 2021 at 7:21 am
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Yes, you've told us what you believe about what other people think, and those other people have told you that you were wrong.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 26, 2021 at 7:24 am
(June 26, 2021 at 7:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yes, you've told us what you believe about what other people think, and those other people have told you that you were wrong.
I have NEVER told you anything about what I "believe" because I do not do "believing." You will never find anyplace a comment from me saying, "I 'believe'...anything."
So stop the bullshit.
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June 26, 2021 at 7:29 am
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You've told us what you ham sandwich about what other people think, and those other people have told you that you were wrong?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 26, 2021 at 7:35 am
(June 26, 2021 at 7:29 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You've told us what you ham sandwich about what other people think, and those other people have told you that you were wrong?
Lame!
Although I suppose the other kids in the sandbox think you are very clever.
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