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Family not accepting you're an Atheist
#31
RE: Family not accepting you're an Atheist
Brewer is offering a counterpoint. Do you want to hide your true beliefs? Maybe that makes things easier... but there are also reasons not to.
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#32
RE: Family not accepting you're an Atheist
(August 28, 2021 at 3:50 pm)brewer Wrote: New wife that's religious----> dad wants to get laid more often----> dad finds god----> new wife prays horizontally!

I would have considered that if he wasn't pretty hardcore about god when it was just me and him together - I have only had one discussion with him recently. Unless he doesn't want to be potentially caught out by new wife if I say something. That being said he was strongly opposed to me being atheist in this 1 to 1 setting , which made me assume religion/god ideas has him under it's spell currently and it's not necessarily an act - unless he's getting worried about dying and the pascal's wager thing like I mentioned
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#33
RE: Family not accepting you're an Atheist
In all honesty, what my family accepts about me or not, isn't my problem.
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#34
RE: Family not accepting you're an Atheist
(August 29, 2021 at 10:51 am)TheEnd8888 Wrote:
(August 28, 2021 at 3:50 pm)brewer Wrote: New wife that's religious----> dad wants to get laid more often----> dad finds god----> new wife prays horizontally!

I would have considered that if he wasn't pretty hardcore about god when it was just me and him together - I have only had one discussion with him recently. Unless he doesn't want to be potentially caught out by new wife if I say something. That being said he was strongly opposed to me being atheist in this 1 to 1 setting , which made me assume religion/god ideas has him under it's spell currently and it's not necessarily an act - unless he's getting worried about dying and the pascal's wager thing like I mentioned

My opinion, he can't be that sincere in his belief if he's doing the Pascal dance.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#35
RE: Family not accepting you're an Atheist
the pascal dance...that's a good one
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#36
RE: Family not accepting you're an Atheist
Pascals wager... what if you picked the wrong god to believe in... Zeus might be pissed!
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#37
RE: Family not accepting you're an Atheist
 I came out as an atheist in 1982, although I had left the Catholic Church at least ten years earlier. My mom had a conniption over this and spent the next two decades or more saying novenas and donating to the Church for prayers on my behalf. All this accomplished was to confirm once and for all in my mind the inefficacy of prayer. If anyone else in my family couldn't deal with the fact that I was an atheist, they kept quiet about it.
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
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#38
RE: Family not accepting you're an Atheist
(August 30, 2021 at 8:24 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:  I came out as an atheist in 1982, although I had left the Catholic Church at least ten years earlier. My mom had a conniption over this and spent the next two decades or more saying novenas and donating to the Church for prayers on my behalf. All this accomplished was to confirm once and for all in my mind the inefficacy of prayer. If anyone else in my family couldn't deal with the fact that I was an atheist, they kept quiet about it.

My mom didn't go all out "what the f". But she did simply sluff it off as a phase. Ironically years later, she ended up buying me atheist books like Dawkins and Harris and Stenger and Ali over the years. 

My mom died a Catholic in 2017. She never left that religion. But my entire life I have to give her credit, she always tried to give me support. She even drove me to the 2007 Atheist convention in DC. And after that 3 day convention, she was excited to know what happened and who I met. I think most of it was because she knew I would make a fool out of myself in front of the Keynote speakers. 

I mean she was a good sport. She wanted me to be myself, but she also knew what a spaz, geek I was. So she knew how much I wanted to meet Hitchens and Hawking and Harris. But she also knew I was also going to act like a school girl meeting Elvis. So after I made a fool of my self for 3 days, I finally get back to her and tell her of all the stupid shit I did, she laughed. 

I don't like that she was Catholic, being former Catholic myself. But for that one weekend, she knew, that it wasn't about religion, or politics, but about a parent trying to prove she could connect to her child. I know we were polar opposites. But when I came back from those three days, her first question to me, knowing that I had told her who would possibly be there, she asked me, "So who did you meet?".  THAT MEANT EVERYTHING TO ME.
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#39
RE: Family not accepting you're an Atheist
(August 30, 2021 at 8:24 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:  I came out as an atheist in 1982......

I was three years old.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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#40
RE: Family not accepting you're an Atheist
(August 30, 2021 at 9:25 am)Foxaire Wrote:
(August 30, 2021 at 8:24 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:  I came out as an atheist in 1982......

I was three years old.

Good lord, I have a kid older than you...time for a nap.
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