Russia and Ukraine

[Deesse23]

Canada, the US, most of Western Europe, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia are under the sway of the corporate, pro-war media. When someone says "the world condemns Russia," these countries are what they mean by "the world." 

I live in Europe

Please tell me what news media i am consuming............right, you dont know. But what you know is that i am wrong because i dont agree with you, right?  Of course this is irrational (or even deliberately dishonest) from your side, and you know it, thats why you wrap this up in a nice "poisoning the well" fallacy: I am wrong, because i listen to the wrong media, yet you dont even know what i am consuming.

P.S.: You forgot to mention most of Eastern Europe, Scandinavia and the Baltic, since they dont agree with you as well. They are under propaganda too, because.......right?

[The Grand Nudger]

Probably also slaves to the whims of their american overlords. Meanwhile, weeks after the start of breathless claims that russia would take bakhmut any minute now, trapping thousands of ukranian soldiers..it holds, and the russian lines have been pushed back and away from the supply lines continuing to make it a meatgrinder for russian troops.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Canada, the US, most of Western Europe, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia are under the sway of the corporate, pro-war media. When someone says "the world condemns Russia," these countries are what they mean by "the world." 

I live in Europe

Please tell me what news media i am consuming............right, you dont know. But what you know is that i am wrong because i dont agree with you, right?  Of course this is irrational (or even deliberately dishonest) from your side, and you know it, thats why you wrap this up in a nice "poisoning the well" fallacy: I am wrong, because i listen to the wrong media, yet you dont even know what i am consuming.

P.S.: You forgot to mention most of Eastern Europe, Scandinavia and the Baltic, since they dont agree with you as well. They are under propaganda too, because.......right?

Since there are a grand total of five countries who blame the war on NATO (Russia, Belarus, Eritrea, Syria and North Fucking Korea), the ‘corporate, pro-war media’ must be more powerful than any of us realized.

The Illuminati can suck it.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

We just never got around to adding all those extra stars on our flag.

[Pat Mustard]

Kymeta will replace Starlink in Ukraine. Pentagon is setting up a deal and other NATO countries will join.

Kymeta calls Elon Musk's Ukraine actions ‘egregious’ and 'there’s blood on his hands for that'. They will support SAT services for defensive purposes.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/federal-co...lasts-musk

That’s good news. Sometimes I am not really sure if this Elon Musk is a new Bill Gates or if he is more like the Mark Zuckerberg Type

He's Trump without the former's business acumen.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Canada, the US, most of Western Europe, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia are under the sway of the corporate, pro-war media. When someone says "the world condemns Russia," these countries are what they mean by "the world." 

Buzzwords 

[Deesse23]

Canada, the US, most of Western Europe, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia are under the sway of the corporate, pro-war media. When someone says "the world condemns Russia," these countries are what they mean by "the world." 

Buzzwords 

 If i was him i would be embarrassed to make such sweeping statements. It is pure BS.


Edit: "corporate" my ass. The two biggest TV stations in Germany are public service, one financed by taxpayer money, the other one by a public fee. And thats just the tip of the proverbial Bel poo-berg

[pocaracas]

he has published his latest book in Japan because he has been ostracized by several writers in “Le Figaro” or in “Le Monde”. 

If you listen to the interview, he says that he published the book in Japan because the mainstream media in France is all in for war. As in the US, anti-war voices are sidelined. It was that way before Afghanistan and before Iraq. 

Just to chime in on the "pro-war" detail.

I belive we are most of us anti-war.
The trouble is that a particular country decided to attack another country.

The Western world, led by the US, is trying to stop the war by returning to the previous status quo, where Ukraine retains its pre-war borders.... ideally including Crimea. I belive Ukraine wants that too.

I've heard quite a few voices claiming to be anti-war, but that just means that they want Ukraine to roll over and let Russia implement their puppet government (similar to Belarus) and let everyone carry on with their lives. Do the Ukrainians want to be ruled by a Russian puppet government? I'd say that the 2014 revolution and subsequent elections suggest otherwise.

At the heart of the matter, I think, we have who is responsible for this conflict.
Since the Russians are the ones who placed troops in another country, we say they are responsible.
The Russians claim that they were forced to do this by "The West", by NATO expansion, and so the US becomes responsible... and thus we have these two not-really-compatible points of view and the war continues until the smaller child gives up.

[The Architect Of Fate]

He can't work his head around the idea you can be Anti War and still think there are justifications still for war. That being Anti-War means there situation where you think military intervention is justified.

I for one do not want this war but the Die is cast and Russia must be stopped.

[The Grand Nudger]

Only russia wants this war.