Are executions making the US look bad?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Hear me out.  Sexecutions; Death by snu snu.  Everyone wins.

I am tempted to copy and paste your post into Google translate.  Can you clarify?

He thinks convicted criminals should be fucked to death.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

I am tempted to copy and paste your post into Google translate.  Can you clarify?

He thinks convicted criminals should be fucked to death.

Boru

How come they get preferential treatment?

[Jehanne]

I am tempted to copy and paste your post into Google translate.  Can you clarify?

He thinks convicted criminals should be fucked to death.

Boru

I regret not adding a Serious tag to this thread.

[zebo-the-fat]

They won't know if they are cumming or going!

[The Grand Nudger]

He thinks convicted criminals should be fucked to death.

Boru

I regret not adding a Serious tag to this thread.

We can get it back on track!  So, the other part of your question..does it hurt the us, in light of war somewhere, as an advocate of moral governance or humanist values?  Probably not.  We're okay with killing.  Wars, criminals...ultimately it's the same.  Humanism doesn't reject killing outright.  It asserts that all wars are man made and may be ended by men.  That wars are terrible insomuch as they cause immense destruction to human life, and that a war is always the last resort.  

Humanism, good morals...does not say... that there's no such thing as a good kill. Humanism is not interchangeable with pacifism. I'm a humanist..notably not a pacifist - but I do have reservations about execution. Not the killing itself, but who's doing it, and why. I don't think it should be the business of a state to kill it's own people. We can safely leave that to other states, who will never run out of reasons to do so. Ultimately, an answer to your question is found in this. It's believed by better than half of us that executions do something to prevent some greater harm. I disagree, but that's the gist of it.

[HappySkeptic]

The biggest advocates of state killings are right-wing Christians, despite this being against the teachings of Jesus.

Maybe we believe that some people deserve to die, while we wield our righteous anger. The Christian message is that only God judges, and that all are sinners that can be saved. My own atheist belief is that all human life has value, and that killing won't bring back the dead nor truly act as a deterrent.

Yes, I think executions harm the U.S. moral ground on international human rights.

[Nay_Sayer]

Hear me out.  Sexecutions; Death by snu snu.  Everyone wins.

I am tempted to copy and paste your post into Google translate.  Can you clarify?

Snu Snu was the word for sex in an episode of Futurama. 

For more clarity that's a cartoon and the heroes ended up on a  planet of giant amazon women who would capture males and kill them via endless sex or as they called it 'Snu Snu'.

There was a visual gag of skeletons with crushed pelvis but big smiles.

In short a silly stupid joke.

[The Grand Nudger]

The biggest advocates of state killings are right-wing Christians, despite this being against the teachings of Jesus.

Maybe we believe that some people deserve to die, while we wield our righteous anger.  The Christian message is that only God judges, and that all are sinners that can be saved.  My own atheist belief is that all human life has value, and that killing won't bring back the dead nor truly act as a deterrent.

Yes, I think executions harm the U.S. moral ground on international human rights.

The rarified, alabster white..and unblemished moral ground of international human rights harmed by offing a few murderers and rapists?  Difficult to see how.

In principle, ofc, I agree with you, that executions are antithetical to some idea of human rights - just not the prevalent idea on the ground. That gives us, perhaps, another piece of the explanation for why people concerned with human rights and who may think that executions aren't a great look still support or are ambivalent to the issue.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Nah, just makes the other countries look like pansies.

Yes treating the worst of us with compassion and humanity ....That's so awful.....

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I regret not adding a Serious tag to this thread.

We can get it back on track!  So, the other part of your question..does it hurt the us, in light of war somewhere, as an advocate of moral governance or humanist values?  Probably not.  We're okay with killing.  Wars, criminals...ultimately it's the same.  Humanism doesn't reject killing outright.  It asserts that all wars are man made and may be ended by men.  That wars are terrible insomuch as they cause immense destruction to human life, and that a war is always the last resort.  

Humanism, good morals...does not say... that there's no such thing as a good kill.  Humanism is not interchangeable with pacifism.  I'm a humanist..notably not a pacifist - but I do have reservations about execution.  Not the killing itself, but who's doing it, and why.  I don't think it should be the business of a state to kill it's own people.   We can safely leave that to other states, who will never run out of reasons to do so.  Ultimately, an answer to your question is found in this.  It's believed by better than half of us that executions do something to prevent some greater harm.  I disagree, but that's the gist of it.

I think there’s a pretty wide gulf between just killing people qua killing people and judicial executions.

Morally, no country is justified in pointing at another and saying, ‘You’ve killed people! Be ashamed!’ People killing other people is ubiquitous, always has been. But when a country convicts someone of a particularly heinous and decides that sentencing that person to death is somehow fitting, most countries today view that as a moral failure. The person is locked up, society is protected - what further justice is accomplished by executing that person?

This is where the damage to the US legacy as a moral and humanistic leader enters the picture. How can they expect to lecture the world on morality when the world views this action as immoral? 

Boru