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Kanye West on Alex Jones
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 (December 4, 2022 at 11:51 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Last I checked, Kanye wasn't trying to justify why innocent people deserve to die, but YOU and a few others were. No, Kanye was just lauding the one guy who happened to murder eleven million innocents with his orders. He wasn't trying to justify it, probably because there is no justifying Hitler's orders. 
Indeed saying Truman had a tactical justification for his actions due to imperial japan's unwillingness to surrender when given a chance as unpleasant as those actions were and as flawed as Truman himself was. Kanye's opinions on Hitler trying to say Hitler a man who murdered millions for no other reason than their ethnicity etc is indefensible. So this comparison fails. Kanye's a POS. Hitler is an irredeemable monster. Truman is both a product of his age and culture and was forced to make hard and unpleasant decisions.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! ![[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=cdn.shopify.com%2Fs%2Ffiles%2F1%2F0630%2F5310%2F3332%2Fproducts%2FCanada_Flag.jpg%3Fv%3D1646203843) “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM  RE: Kanye West on Alex Jones
December 6, 2022 at 12:33 am
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2022 at 12:40 am by Huggy Bear.)
(December 5, 2022 at 7:38 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(December 4, 2022 at 11:51 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Last I checked, Kanye wasn't trying to justify why innocent people deserve to die, but YOU and a few others were. And I'm saying there are plenty of people you can focus on other than a guy whom you all know has mental illness. For instance, Germany was broke after WW1, Do yall know that George W Bush's grandfather Prescott was one of the people that helped fund the Nazis rise to power? The extent of his involvement is still classified... Not only was he involved in Hitlers rise to power, he was aiding the enemy, but y'all want to talk about how bad (mentally ill) Kanye is... RE: Kanye West on Alex Jones
December 6, 2022 at 12:40 am
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2022 at 12:41 am by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:And I'm saying there are plenty of people you focus on other than a guy whom you all know has mental illness.Mental illness isn't an excuse for fucking lauding Hilter. This whataboutism is getting desperate...  Quote:For instance, Germany was broke after WW1, Do yall know that it was George W Bush grandfather Prescott was one of the people that helped fund the Nazis rise to power? The extent of his involvement is still classified...Sins of the father much ....... And do honestly think anyone on this thread has a positive opinion of the Bushes? Quote:How about publicizing that?That has fuck all to do with anything. Name one serious American millionaire in the 1930s and Early 40s who didn't invest in the German economy.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM  RE: Kanye West on Alex Jones
December 6, 2022 at 1:04 am
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2022 at 1:04 am by Fake Messiah.)
(December 6, 2022 at 12:33 am)Huggy Bear Wrote: And I'm saying there are plenty of people you can focus on other than a guy whom you all know has mental illness. For instance, Germany was broke after WW1, Do yall know that George W Bush's grandfather Prescott was one of the people that helped fund the Nazis rise to power? The extent of his involvement is still classified... Do you know that what you are doing is called whataboutism?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
(December 6, 2022 at 1:04 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(December 6, 2022 at 12:33 am)Huggy Bear Wrote: And I'm saying there are plenty of people you can focus on other than a guy whom you all know has mental illness. For instance, Germany was broke after WW1, Do yall know that George W Bush's grandfather Prescott was one of the people that helped fund the Nazis rise to power? The extent of his involvement is still classified... No, what I'm doing is ignoring the powerless mentally ill guy and focusing on people who actually DID something. (December 6, 2022 at 1:12 am)Huggy Bear Wrote:(December 6, 2022 at 1:04 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Do you know that what you are doing is called whataboutism? That is whataboutism. If you want to talk about Prescott Bush, or someone else, then open a topic about him, here we talk about Ye - it is simple as that.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
 RE: Kanye West on Alex Jones
December 6, 2022 at 1:31 am
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2022 at 1:43 am by Rev. Rye.)
The most important difference between Prescott Bush and Ye (at least for the purposes of this thread) is that Ye hasn’t been six feet under for half a century.
Also, are we seriously going to consider the guy who, up until a few months ago, was a multi-billionaire, and, more recently, dined with a former President/current Republican presidential frontrunner powerless?
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.
![[Image: harmlesskitchen.png]](https://i.postimg.cc/yxR97P23/harmlesskitchen.png) I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad. Quote:No, what I'm doing is ignoring the powerless mentally ill guy and focusing on people who actually DID something.1. Kanye West powerless? Are you freaking kidding me! Powerless people don't get invited to dinner with an EX president.... 2. Infantizing mentally ill people by arguing they can't be held responsible for the shit they say is frankly insulting really. Mental illness is not a get excuse for asshole behavior or asshole opinions. 3. And no what your doing is the definition of Whataboutism trying to steer the conversation away from the indefensible actions of Kanye by bringing up someone else's wrongdoing as if that somehow negates what he said. And Kanye did do something he praised a fucking genocidal fascist dictator who killed millions. That's doing something irrespective of the actions of anyone else and it's totally just to call him out for it.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM RE: Kanye West on Alex Jones
December 6, 2022 at 2:51 am
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2022 at 2:54 am by Huggy Bear.)
(December 6, 2022 at 1:31 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: The most important difference between Prescott Bush and Ye (at least for the purposes of this thread) is that Ye hasn’t been six feet under for half a century. Ok,... But Ye is speaking on someone who has been dead longer.... What's your point? |
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