Is Islam A Death Cult?

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[Leonardo17]

[The Grand Nudger]

Sincerity is gone, in large part, because people have become more intellectual and less lazy.

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To simplify a very complex subject as you seem to have no problem doing as siting a Wikipedia article, why is your way: "So my faith is:" bla bla bla, some how translated to what the wider Muslim world reads into the passages of the Quran? You offer nothing but your personal and anecdotal experience. That in no way invalidates what the article spoke of or what I'm asking. You are one, they are many. You cannot project your own experience onto others.

I respect that you see the Quran as you do, it is one of the less harmful interpretations. But it is in no way a wide spread interpretation. It is your own. As you stated.

I'm sure you see me as just some other infidel that is ignorant of the teachings of Mohmed ect ect. I get it. My land lord is Muslim. He comes home to pray and manages most of his prayers. I once interrupted him and his brother assured me it was fine. I'm a man after all. I watched as he kneeled and bowed and said his words. I'm also a minor in geology so I have a decent understanding of the globe and what direction I'm facing on it. You can guess where this is going. I couldn't resist and asked my landlord if he knew he wasn't facing mecca.

He insisted he was. Thankfully we have these handy phones in our pockets and I pulled mine out and showed him the little used compass app. With it and google maps I was able to show him he was praying more or less to Denmark. Long story Long he prays directly to mecca now.

Now if a very peaceful and devote man such as him got that bit wrong... doesn't it stand to reason... that other bits might be misinterpreted? or frankly correctly interpreted?

[Leonardo17]

[no one]

Might as well be. Who wants to live without bacon anyway?

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“We may therefore conclude that there is neither jihad nor martyrdom outside the realm of truth, that martyrdom applies only when it is preceded by jihad, that jihad is an inclusive struggle for the cause of the truth, that a mujahid dies the death of a martyr even though he does not fall on the battlefield. He dies as a martyr even though he is not killed, on the condition that he stays loyal to the divine truth and stands ready to fight for the truth and to defend it at all costs, even at the cost of his own life. He is a mujahid while he lives, and a martyr if he dies or is killed for it.”

You can read that and see virtue. But try and read it as a infidel. IT implies that anyone claiming Jihad is claiming truth. It's right there in the first sentence. So anything after, death from martyrdom is in service to truth/jihad. It's not that slippery a slope to suicide bombers. AkA: A death Cult. "He dies a martyr even though he is not killed" implying some Devine armor that is nonsense. And if he dies? Well he didn't believe enough in the truth. The Armor didn't work for him. "He is mujahid while he lives, and a martyr if he dies or is killed for it." So he's a struggler and striver while he lives (that's what Mujahid means) and he's elevated to a saint hood (that's what martyr means) if he dies.

Yah no emphasis on death in this cult at all. Pfft.

[The Grand Nudger]

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When do you declare unilateral victory over your vanquished foes in these forums?

[no one]

Toot that trumpet timely. Be wary though, all the sharp hailing may turn out just to be flat.