Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.

[Bucky Ball]

The really interesting thing for me about this exact point, (I was thinking the other day I should bring it up) ....
society in general gives sentences which are in no way commensurate with what they claim the act is. I know there are 
proposals (in Texas maybe) for life sentences for abortion, but in general, if it's really "murder" they are extraordinarily light. 3 years, 5 years etc. 
They obviously aren't serious about a murder charge. It's something else and clearly they (the legislatures) don't really buy that it's "murdering a baby" or they would all be life sentences or death sentences. 

Thats where i wanted to get to with NX, and he knew it as well. Thats why he avoided adressing it, at all cost (talking about Lincoln. natural abortions, suddenly portraying women as victims of abortionism, practicing forgiveness, etc.)

If he was consistent, he had to ask to punish murder according to what he calls "murder".  He seems to either be a better person than he is representing here , or he hasnt thought it through, or he doesnt care as much about Fetuses, or he is already knowing he is a misogynist liar. The last remaining option is that he really says what he thinks, and life should be a proper punishment. But still he avoided proudly fully presenting his position (which he otherwise loves to do, in every.single.thread.he.created). In this case he also seems to be aware that his position is commonly seen as barbaric.

There is no potential way for him to adress this dilemma at all, without looking like a fool, liar or barbarian, or a combination of the above.

I now buy absolutely nothing he/she says. 
It's nothing but a psychotic freaky attention whore.

[Fake Messiah]

It all goes back to Marx and his Militant Atheism, and then the Promotion of Abortion by Bolshevik Communists in Russia. That's where all these horrors of Abortion began and why more than 2 BN children have had to be killed before the world learns the Truth.

You claim how societies where abortion is forbidden are much better than those where they are legal Soviet Union.

But the reality is that the Soviet Union banned abortion since 1932. So so the Soviet Union lived by the ideals you preach and yet you use them as a bad example. In other words, you are eating your own shit.

So knowing you, you will simply ignore how wrong you are and talk about some other topic like who hanged Jesus.

[Nishant Xavier]

[Fake Messiah]

@ Fake Messiah. I know they did that, and they did because of Demographic Issues, not out of Moral Convictions, not because they suddenly became Pro-Life Christians or something. The real conclusion you ought to draw from that history is abortion leads to demographic problems in time, which is why the Communists went back and forth on them. Yet what I said about the Bolshevik Communists being the first to legalize and promote abortion is 100% right.

The conclusion is that you do not know what you are talking about. Many countries have legal abortions and yet do not suffer from demographic decline. The solution is not to force women to give birth but to give couples initiatives, better healthcare, better pays, let gays adopt, and so on.

Banning abortion was always a sign of barbarism. Like you, you don't give a shit how many women will die and suffer when abortion gets banned because you are a narrow-minded religious freak who just wants to please his nonexistent god.

[Nishant Xavier]

[Nishant Xavier]

[Angrboda]

What exactly is your point about fertility rates? I'm not seeing a point there.

[h4ym4n]

Lol.

It sounds like god is punishing the souls of aborted babies or babies god itself kills. 

Why would god create an after life one step up from hell and a step down from paradise just to closet dead baby souls?

What do you think X. Does it sound like a punishment to you?

Nishant XavierHymn4n, they have Perfect Natural Happiness, and a Possibility of even Super-Natural Hapiness. Doesn't sound so bad to me. Abortionists and those who promote and support baby-killing should consider their own Children might rise up at the Judgment and ask God to condemn them. And what do you think God would do if those Babies asked him to, Hymn4n? If one has committed an abortion, or supported it, the right thing is to ask God, and one's children, for forgiveness. There is no right to take life. There is a duty to protect life, especially the lives of one's own innocent children. That might be hard, but it is the Truth. The Truth will set you free.

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Xavier

It’s so refreshing to speak to a believer who replies with honesty.

I’m glad we both came to the same conclusion that aborted unwanted babies are far better off being aborted rather than being born into a world controlled by gods appointed enemy Satan/Lucifer/Devil.

“they have Perfect Natural Happiness”
“[b]Doesn't sound so bad to me”[/b]
“[b]and a Possibility of even Super-Natural Hapiness.”[/b]

I agree, sounds like paradise LITE with the possibility of heaven parole.

Let me ask you another question and I hope you take the time to think about your answer.

In my case, someone who has never believed and wasn’t given the evidence that god gave you that it exists , that me being aborted would have been far better for me than being born to a world Satan controls, never believing and being tortured for all eternity for not believing?

Seriously think about it and I am appreciative for your thoughts. 

[Nishant Xavier]

Angrboda: the point is Abortion causes demographic problems in time. Even those who were neutral or non-committal to any moral position on the abortion issue recognized this effect of it.

Hymn4n, I answered your question. Children saved in infancy, like those Baptized, go to Heaven, by the Pure Grace of Christ given in Baptism. They have no merits of their own but will enjoy Heavenly Happiness. Those however, who have received Baptism, and also do Good Works, like adults can, will receive a higher degree of happiness for every good work they did. That's because every Good work done in the State of Grace earns further merits. This is also why suffering is not meaningless in Catholic Christianity, whereas under Atheism it is; every good work, every suffering borne out of love, like a kind of martyrdom, will be rewarded, just as the Martyr's Crown I mentioned in Rev 2:10 is. The more and more good works a person does, the more suffering he/she endures righteously, the higher and higher will be the Reward in Heaven upon death. Thus, the Lord said: "Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the Crown of Life".

Does that answer your question? As for evidence, pls see the link to that website I gave on the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano. We have as much evidence for Christ's Power today as those who witnessed His Miracles when He walked on Earth, if not even more, after 2000 years of Eucharistic Miracles, well documented Miracles like those worked by Our Lady of Fatima etc, the Miracle of the Sun seen by 70,000 eyewitnesses on October 13,1917, in Fatima, Portugal. It confounded the Marxist press and led to some accepting/embracing Catholic Christianity.

[Nishant Xavier]