Sexual Abuse in Social Context: Clergy and other (Secular) Professionals.

[Nishant Xavier]

[Nay_Sayer]

Your cop-out is "Danger gay!" ?

I'm not surprised you'd defend priests molesting children or the church's efforts to cover it up.
Even your current pope admits there was a problem.

You are a sad, disingenuous, wicked, amoral, vile subhuman.


Thoughts and prayers.
RAmen

[The Grand Nudger]

"Other people are kiddie fuckers too!" isn't the defense you think it is. Deal with your witchdoctors, and when you're done with that, deal with your coverup industry.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Nishant, you have met our 30/30 requirements and are now able to post links. I strongly recommend that you either avail yourself of this capability or put these massive text walls in hide tags.

And, as Nudger said, ‘everybody else does it’ is not a defense. 

Boru

[Nay_Sayer]

Nishant, you have met our 30/30 requirements and are now able to post links. I strongly recommend that you either avail yourself of this capability or put these massive text walls in hide tags.

And, as Nudger said, ‘everybody else does it’ is not a defense. 

Boru

[Fake Messiah]

[The Architect Of Fate]

LOL pushing the catholic churches lie that it was gays that are the problem. Typical scapegoating it had nothing to do with homosexuality....

Second it's one giant tu quoque and a desprate attempt at deflection...

[The Architect Of Fate]

Your cop-out is "Danger gay!" ?

I'm not surprised you'd defend priests molesting children or the church's efforts to cover it up.
Even your current pope admits there was a problem.

You are a sad, disingenuous, wicked, amoral, vile subhuman.


Thoughts and prayers.
RAmen

But...But....Teh gays are the problem and not the churches zeal in covering it up...

Apparently catholic don't understand the difference between a paedophile and a homosexual. Spoiler alert you can't judge the sexuality of someone by the victim because strait people will molest young boys as pedophilia is about power not attraction.

[The Architect Of Fate]

It's funny he brings up Thomas G Plante who makes it clears gays aren't the problem[/url]

[url=https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2018/10/22/no-homosexuality-not-risk-factor-sexual-abuse-children]https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2018/10/22/no-homosexuality-not-risk-factor-sexual-abuse-children

Next this lunatic will be accusing the Jews of Blood Libels...

Truly a rancid person.Now I am reminded why I began ignoring him a policy i'm going to continue.

[Nishant Xavier]

Brian, noted, thank you.

To the others: no, it's not a question of "everyone else is doing it too, so it's ok". St. Augustine said: "wrong is still wrong if everyone is wrong and right is still right if no one is right". That's what I believe: it's more like this: "like crime itself, it's almost impossible to root it out altogether", otherwise why are there still criminals. As for those who try to hide it, that's another sin on their part, but as noted, there are Rabbis, Teachers etc who've done the same. Again, wrong is wrong, but this is a grave problem across vast sections of society, including Secular teachers.

Now, let me quote one salient excerpt comparing across denominations, and later across religions, then between religious and Secular people;

1. "Finally, in the authoritative work by Penn State professor Philip Jenkins, Pedophiles and Priests, it was determined that between .2 and 1.7 percent of priests are pedophiles. The figure among the Protestant clergy ranges between 2 and 3 percent.[xxii]". This one data point alone refutes the idea that there is an alleged endemic of child abuse in the Catholic Church; Catholic Priests are less likely, not more, to engage in that bed behavior than ministers in other denominations. And in some Secular fields, it is far worse than in any religion. Why ignore that?

Why people don't research these things on their own before jumping to false generalized conclusions is the real question. Also, none of you can show any passage in the Bible or Tradition or the Catechism that condones or encourages these crimes and sins, whereas there are many that condemn them in the strongest terms. You should read how strict the Church Fathers and traditional discipline was on that small minority of abusers and criminals whom it is always difficult to root out. All Good Catholics condemn it, and no one seriously striving for Heaven or for holiness would take part in or condone such sinful behavior. Those few bad Priests are criminals, but not all Priests.