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RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 23, 2023 at 2:18 am
Read this from African vibes: " the Catholic Church seems to live by example through the works done by its affiliate organizations. That said, let’s look at Catholic charities in Africa and some of the projects they have accomplished ... Ignatius de Loyola established the Jesuit Missions in 1534. The charity is headquartered in London and its mission is to support the poor around the world. Jesuit Missions serves communities in various ways including providing financial help and promoting social justice. Its vision is to have a world where the dignity of poor and marginalized people is defended. Also, the charity envisions a world where justice, compassionate service, and generosity of spirit are practiced as the church demonstrates Christian faith." https://africanvibes.com/list-of-catholi...in-africa/
Keep ignoring the fact documented in my signature, Fake Messiah, that the Catholic Church is the largest institutional provider of health care services in the modern world. This is what the Catholic Church teaches and what the Christian/Biblical Code of Ethics binds us too: "In modern times, the Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of health care in the world. Catholic religious have been responsible for founding and running networks of hospitals across the world where medical research continues to be advanced." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_C...ealth_care What is Marxist Militant Atheism doing for and in Africa by comparison?
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July 23, 2023 at 2:20 am
The largest non government provider, lol, all the while sucking up tons of government coin. The catholic church is an organized welfare scam.
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July 23, 2023 at 2:25 am
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Still waiting for what Militant Marxist Atheism is doing. Attacking the Largest Healthcare provider that serves the entire world, and doing nothing else? Writing books like "How Religion poisons everything" like Militant Atheists do? Here's what Christianity is doing/inspiring around the world, including America.
"We all know we should give to charity, but who really does? In his controversial study of America's giving habits, Arthur C. Brooks shatters stereotypes about charity in America-including the myth that the political Left is more compassionate than the Right. Brooks, a preeminent public policy expert, spent years researching giving trends in America, and even he was surprised by what he found. In Who Really Cares, he identifies the forces behind American charity: strong families, church attendance, earning one's own income (as opposed to receiving welfare), and the belief that individuals-not government-offer the best solution to social ills. But beyond just showing us who the givers and non-givers in America really are today, Brooks shows that giving is crucial to our economic prosperity, as well as to our happiness, health, and our ability to govern ourselves as a free people ...
... once the author reveals that religion is the cause of conservative generosity, that liberal Christians give almost as much as conservative Christians, and that non-religious conservatives are actually the least compassionate and generous group, the surprise is ruined, because it’s really not much of a surprise that religious people give more than non-religious people (unless you’re a staunch atheist who thinks religious people are evil)." https://www.amazon.in/Who-Really-Cares-A...0465008232
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July 23, 2023 at 2:26 am
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You mean all those marxist atheist governments, that your pedo church is second fiddle to, even after stealing their money?
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RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 23, 2023 at 2:28 am
(July 23, 2023 at 2:18 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Read this from African vibes: "the Catholic Church seems to live by example through the works done by its affiliate organizations. That said, let’s look at Catholic charities in Africa and some of the projects they have accomplished ... Ignatius de Loyola established
Reporters literally say how UNICEF has proclaimed that place to be the worst place for a child to live in the world although it is run by Caritas.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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July 23, 2023 at 2:37 am
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Right, so Marxist Militant Atheism is doing nothing to help the world's Poor. Christian Churches and Christian States do much for the cause of the Poor around the world. As I said, we're happy to ally with Good Secular Organizations in doing so, as well as Secular Humanists in general who agree with Gospel Values, but not Militant Atheists who falsely teach Christian Religion is evil, which is itself evil and false on their part. They do nothing to help 360 MN Christians being persecuted in the world today, and are complicit in that ongoing genocide, holocaust and persecution of Christians; they are indifferent to the cause of helping persecuted Christians, including some persecuted Christians in Africa. Nigeria is one region of the world where Christians are severely persecuted, as mentioned by Open Doors, but few do anything about it. Evangelist Daniel Kolenda recently said he got Governor Ron De Santis involved when he needed help in an area in Africa where Christians are persecuted. We know now who helps and who doesn't, and we stand with those who do. God bless those who help persecuted Christians.
"And it’s not just killings. During the same period, more than 4,700 Christians in Nigeria were also abducted because they follow Jesus, and at least 1,000 believers were raped, sexually assaulted or sexually harassed for their faith. Christians were forced to flee and go into hiding—more than 10,000 in Nigeria during this reporting period. And more than 10,000 followers of Jesus were physically or mentally abused for their faith." https://www.opendoorsus.org/en-US/storie...two-hours/
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July 23, 2023 at 2:44 am
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(July 23, 2023 at 2:37 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Right, so Marxist Militant Atheism is doing nothing to help the world's Poor. Christian Churches and Christian States do much for the cause of the Poor around the world.
Yeah, like kidnapping children from poor families and selling them to rich ones.
Again, if you weren't so concerned in enabling pedophiles you would see that criticizing Church has nothing to do with Marxism, but that the Church is doing a lousy job. Like when it comes to hospitals - they are just taking money from the government and then doing horrible job running those hospitals because they put their Catholic bigotry in them. Here is an example
Quote:Where Catholic Beliefs and Public Needs Collide
Rape victims are being turned away, and divorced employees are losing their jobs. Catholic hospitals, kindergartens and nursing homes -- which are primarily tax-funded -- are causing problems for Germany's social welfare state. But some politicians are fighting back.
Their original mission has expanded into a corporation encompassing 16 nursing homes and 10 hospitals. The only problem is that care is precisely what has been lacking there recently. Wanting nothing to do with a possible early termination of a pregnancy, doctors working for the Cellitines turned away a woman who was seeking help shortly before Christmas, despite the strong suspicion that she had been raped.
The case reveals how far the Roman Catholic Church has distanced itself from German society, especially -- but not only -- in the area of sexuality.
Catholic facilities are increasingly sealing themselves off, often behaving as if they were part of a state within a state; a cosmos subject to its own rules, which are monitored by the pope and his bishops; and a world in which federal, state and local governments have little say.
Every year, Catholic dioceses receive billions in funds from obligatory taxes paid by church members. But when it comes to scandals, such as when sexual abuse is systematically covered up and remains uninvestigated for years, citizens have little influence and are left to experience how the church energetically defends its special rights.
The process of alienation is well advanced, and it would be a mistake to treat it as merely a problem for Germany's few remaining churchgoers. In fact, it potentially affects millions of Germans. The church is involved in many areas of society, including kindergartens, schools, hospitals and nursing homes. It is the second-largest employer in the country, after the government. It dictates the kind of life its doctors, educators, teachers and cleaning women are allowed to lead. It determines how children are raised. And it also decides -- on its own authority -- how patients are to be treated or, in some cases, turned away.
"The scandalous incidents in Cologne sharply contradict the Christian social mission," says Sylvia Löhrmann, deputy governor of the western state of North Rhine-Westphalia. The Green Party politician is a member of the Central Committee of German Catholics, a forum in which she wants to see the incident addressed. "Not helping a woman who has been raped is a violation of human decency. In doing so, the church harms itself more than anything," says Löhrmann, who is also the state's education minister.
Catholic organizations run some 420 hospitals throughout Germany. In their employment contracts, their roughly 165,000 employees are generally required to comply with the guidelines of bishops and the heads of religious orders. In fact, in some areas, the Catholic Church exerts a strong influence on the social welfare state. The church even has a monopoly in some rural areas, where it controls many facilities, from kindergartens to hospitals to nursing homes.
Paradoxically, although the number of churchgoers has been shrinking for decades, the influence of bishops has been rising. In 1950, excluding ministers and members of religious orders, both the Catholic and Protestant churches in Germany had 130,000 civilian employees, a number that has jumped to over a million today. What's more, Germany has gradually entrusted the churches with large parts of its social welfare system.
The consequences are often enormous for church employees. For instance, an employee who gets a divorce can quickly lose his or her job. And you don't have to be gay to be fired; sometimes all it takes is to express sympathetic views toward homosexuality. Couples who try artificial insemination also have no place in the church's employment.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/ger...79198.html
Or take when thousands of Spanish children were stolen from hospitals by nuns and sold to wealthy Catholic families.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/magaz...abies.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 23, 2023 at 2:52 am
Back to the OP and demography. Here is the WSJ: "By 2020, there were 643 million Christians in sub-Saharan Africa, a quarter of the world total, up from 7.4 million in 1900. By 2050, it is projected that there will be 1.3 billion Christians in the region, or 38% of all the Christians in the world.23-Jun-2023" https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-competi...t-66e5255d
Meanwhile: "Atheists, agnostics and those who do not affiliate with religion will make up a smaller percentage of the world's total population by 2050 — even though the group is growing in the U.S. and Europe." https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsod...-is-rising
We condemn that small minority of whoever it is not living by Gospel Values btw. That should hardly need to be said.
Can you condemn, Fake Messiah and others who might agree with Militant Atheism, those who are persecuting Christians, and agree we, by our Common Humanity, have an objective moral obligation, in a spirit of universal brotherhood, to help those who are being persecuted?
Priests should go back to doing what Priests do best: evangelizing, teaching, bringing the Sacraments, striving for holiness, like St. Padre Pio, St. John Vianney and many others did. This is what Christian Priests have done in every age since Christ Himself and His Apostles, the First Priests.
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July 23, 2023 at 2:54 am
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St. Alphonsus says in one of his works that Priests who had committed but one single mortal sin after Baptism were excluded from the Priesthood by an ancient Canonical Discipline. I am all in favor of going back to traditional rigor as taught by the Church Fathers on these matters, in those days when Christians, especially Priests, lived like Saints, like in that of St. Augustine of Canterbury's time I mentioned, which helped many Non-Christians come to Jesus Christ.
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