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Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
#31
RE: Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
hhmm... are there any religions where the women get a better deal than the men?
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#32
RE: Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
(August 30, 2023 at 12:58 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: hhmm... are there any religions where the women get a better deal than the men?

Maybe some forms of neo-paganism.
#33
RE: Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
(August 30, 2023 at 12:14 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I read the quaran a couple times, visited a mosque, spoke to some Islamic theology students, watched some Islamic apologetic debates, and learned a little about Islamic countries.

Islam seems to me clearly false and immoral.

I grew up in Saudi Arabia. I almost rejected Islam as a whole when I grew up. But I discovered that the backward, disgusting parts are always part of the "Hadith"; not the "Quran".

The Hadith has all the freaky, backwards stuff, including allowing of pedophilia, enforcing full body covering on women, racism against black people -calling them names sometimes-, and more.

But none of that exist in the Quran.

So I reject the Hadith, and consider it a backward medieval Arab chronicles, and believe in the Quran only.
To every Hadith, you'll probably find a Quranic verse negating it.
#34
RE: Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
If you have to selectively edit your religions holy book to make it palatable maybe you need a better religion winter
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#35
RE: Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
But even just restricting it to the quran, don't we find sexism, wife beating, holy war, homophobia, child brides, slavery, hell, scientific and historical inaccuracies, racism, and violence?

And I agree the hadith is much worse.
#36
RE: Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
(August 30, 2023 at 9:56 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But I discovered that the backward, disgusting parts are always part of the "Hadith"; not the "Quran".

What does the Quran say in 5:38?
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
#37
RE: Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
(August 31, 2023 at 2:42 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(August 30, 2023 at 9:56 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But I discovered that the backward, disgusting parts are always part of the "Hadith"; not the "Quran".

What does the Quran say in 5:38?

Are you referring here to the cutting off hands verse? Or another one?
#38
RE: Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
(August 31, 2023 at 2:46 am)FrustratedFool Wrote:
(August 31, 2023 at 2:42 am)Deesse23 Wrote: What does the Quran say in 5:38?

Are you referring here to the cutting off hands verse?  Or another one?

Winter has made it very clear that he thinks chopping off hands is in no way disgusting or backward. He even advocated chopping off hands of children. He has NO business accusing others, including other islamists, of being brutes. He is the poster child of one.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
#39
RE: Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
Yeah. Pretty brutal cutting children's hands off.
Also having sex with slaves. And marrying children. And beating wives.
The quran is a bit gross, tbh.
#40
RE: Taliban stop female Afghan students leaving country to study in Dubai
yes, but slaves, kids and women don't really count as people!
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!




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