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Is Trump going to Prison?
RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
(January 16, 2024 at 12:38 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 16, 2024 at 11:53 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: kings require a pedigree if nothing else.

No, they don’t.

Boru

really?   not even a certificate of inbreeding?
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
(January 16, 2024 at 1:27 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(January 16, 2024 at 12:38 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No, they don’t.

Boru

really?   not even a certificate of inbreeding?

History is replete with un-pedigreed usurpers.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
Quote:As Donald Trump continues to pursue the lie that his 2020 presidential election defeat was the result of electoral fraud, elections officials in Virginia have admitted some results there were improperly reported – resulting in an artificially inflated total for Trump while votes were actually taken away from Joe Biden.

The Guardian
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
(January 16, 2024 at 6:44 pm)Foxaèr Wrote:
Quote:As Donald Trump continues to pursue the lie that his 2020 presidential election defeat was the result of electoral fraud, elections officials in Virginia have admitted some results there were improperly reported – resulting in an artificially inflated total for Trump while votes were actually taken away from Joe Biden.

The Guardian

Even if this was true, that only adds partially to voter fraud by a very small extent, does it not? Also, There were other states that were bigger than Virginia in the election, like Georgia, which Trump was trying to get to change their results. I do not really think the case in this article would help Trump a lot, and if anything, I do not think Biden did much, if anything, to make what happened in Virginia happen.
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
(January 16, 2024 at 6:55 pm)ShinyCrystals Wrote:
(January 16, 2024 at 6:44 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: The Guardian

Even if this was true, that only adds partially to voter fraud by a very small extent, does it not? Also, There were other states that were bigger than Virginia in the election, like Georgia, which Trump was trying to get to change their results. I do not really think the case in this article would help Trump a lot, and if anything, I do not think Biden did much, if anything, to make what happened in Virginia happen.

I think the point is that as much as Trump has complained about "voter fraud", election errors have helped him personally as well.

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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
(January 16, 2024 at 7:00 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(January 16, 2024 at 6:55 pm)ShinyCrystals Wrote: Even if this was true, that only adds partially to voter fraud by a very small extent, does it not? Also, There were other states that were bigger than Virginia in the election, like Georgia, which Trump was trying to get to change their results. I do not really think the case in this article would help Trump a lot, and if anything, I do not think Biden did much, if anything, to make what happened in Virginia happen.

I think the point is that as much as Trump has complained about "voter fraud", election errors have helped him personally as well.

Yeah, I know. Though while it may be related, I don't think the errors will help him that much. I mean, given his actions, and the number of charges against him and his being an insurrectionist, I doubt things will change much in his favor in the 2024 election.
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
(January 16, 2024 at 7:09 pm)ShinyCrystals Wrote:
(January 16, 2024 at 7:00 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I think the point is that as much as Trump has complained about "voter fraud", election errors have helped him personally as well.

Yeah, I know. Though while it may be related, I don't think the errors will help him that much. I mean, given his actions, and the number of charges against him and his being an insurrectionist, I doubt things will change much in his favor in the 2024 election.

It's not whether or not those 2020 errors helped more than hurt. It's the selective complaining that is the point -- the hypocrisy of stoking false claims that the election was stolen while ignoring those errors which did in fact help Trump, however ineffectually. Republicans who cry "election fraud!" are totally quiet on this.

I'm surprised this needs to be spelled out.

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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
(January 16, 2024 at 7:45 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(January 16, 2024 at 7:09 pm)ShinyCrystals Wrote: Yeah, I know. Though while it may be related, I don't think the errors will help him that much. I mean, given his actions, and the number of charges against him and his being an insurrectionist, I doubt things will change much in his favor in the 2024 election.

It's not whether or not those 2020 errors helped more than hurt. It's the selective complaining that is the point -- the hypocrisy of stoking false claims that the election was stolen while ignoring those errors which did in fact help Trump, however ineffectually. Republicans who cry "election fraud!" are totally quiet on this.

I'm surprised this needs to be spelled out.

I see what you mean. I just wanted to get some things off my mind there. That’s all.

Either way, the fact that those whining about election fraud at all and still complaining nearly four years after the election is ridiculous. Some people sadly just can’t let go.
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
Quote:Nearly two-thirds of Iowa caucus-goers said President Biden did not legitimately win the election in 2020, according to results from network entrance polls conducted by Edison Research.



Trump’s legal issues don’t appear to be damaging his standing among Republican primary voters. The entrance polls also revealed the extensive loyalty Trump has among the GOP base in Iowa. The poll found that about two-thirds of Iowa Republican voters would still consider Trump fit to be president even if he were convicted of a crime, while about a third said he would no longer be fit to be president.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...-won-2020/
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
(January 16, 2024 at 7:59 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
Quote:Nearly two-thirds of Iowa caucus-goers said President Biden did not legitimately win the election in 2020, according to results from network entrance polls conducted by Edison Research.



Trump’s legal issues don’t appear to be damaging his standing among Republican primary voters. The entrance polls also revealed the extensive loyalty Trump has among the GOP base in Iowa. The poll found that about two-thirds of Iowa Republican voters would still consider Trump fit to be president even if he were convicted of a crime, while about a third said he would no longer be fit to be president.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...-won-2020/

Huh. I am at least glad that Iowa, or the ones who said they would vote for Trump, do not represent the whole United States country.
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