Yahweh is all powerful, yet, my god is better than your GOD

[Castle]

Their must have had some good imagnation to keep it together and alive.

In 782 A.D. some 4,500 Saxon leaders are said to have been beheaded for practicing their indigenous Germanic paganism, having officially, albeit under duress, converted to Christianity and undergone baptism. The river Aller was said to have been flowing red with their blood. Charlemagne's motives were to demonstrate his overlordship and the severity of punishment for rebellion.

Imagination? When you have a sword in your hand and the willingness to use it for your fucking religion you don't need "imagination."

I wrote in priory order of causes to human deathsTo know death is to control the dangers

Cardiovascular diseases first on the list cause of death account for 29%.of total deaths. After the next highest deaths on the list 18 illnesses of different disease, cancers, stokes, and infections

Then comes in at number 19th car accidents. Suicide deaths are at no. 23rd

DOWN DOWN THE LIST

The sword kills about 31st is violence - WAR is only at number 59th on the list
I sure words and imangination are stronger than the sword

Why not the 3% atheist running the world with their imagination and words, are they just too lame?

[Epimethean]

Castle, do you think the first mammals stood up to Tyrannosaurus openly and said, "Hey, you ugly motherfucker, come get me?"

Evolution takes time, my weird friend. Atheism is around to stay, and it is growing, even if slowly. Science is helping pave the way to a world without the blight of gods, but it is a long uphill battle, and it will take a few thousand years to get rid of monotheistic debris, and even then, a few cults may persist, throwbacks that they may be.

[Castle]

Castle, do you think the first mammals stood up to Tyrannosaurus openly and said, "Hey, you ugly motherfucker, come get me?"

Evolution takes time, my weird friend. Atheism is around to stay, and it is growing, even if slowly. Science is helping pave the way to a world without the blight of gods, but it is a long uphill battle, and it will take a few thousand years to get rid of monotheistic debris, and even then, a few cults may persist, throwbacks that they may be.

There was this new Flintstone Xmas show, Oh no!!! Not another Christian documentary.

Then watched a show: Inside of the world largest Creation Museum. One display had children with raptors pets in their adobe home in the backyard. My only thoughts were that those pet raptor had eaten the Flintstone family, so we could have some evidence today that man co existed with dinosaurs .

Atheism will increase and Religion will shirk and be replace by the spiritually age within 20 years.

I can imagine WE WILL OVER COME

[KichigaiNeko]

Poor Castle... Your english fails you sometimes??? It's not your first language?? (I really am NOT trying to be sarcastic here buddy)te]

MK So.... You. ...

want to know the down side of Atheism??

And are happy to tell all and sundry here about Spirituality???

Sorry honey but ...speaking for my self as an atheist I went through "spirituality" and found just as bad if not worse than religion at a very young age. I am afraid your 20 years was up 11 years ago and nothing has changed, just people getting more worried or greedy or environmentally screwed.

Situation normal I would think. The only down side to atheism would be when Mother is being a mother again or the Universe comes up with something totally unexpected or new...then it is all fun and games.

[Castle]

Poor Castle... Your english fails you sometimes??? It's not your first language?? (I really am NOT trying to be sarcastic here buddy)te]

MK So.... You. ...

want to know the down side of Atheism??

And are happy to tell all and sundry here about Spirituality???

Sorry honey but ...speaking for my self as an atheist I went through "spirituality" and found just as bad if not worse than religion at a very young age. I am afraid your 20 years was up 11 years ago and nothing has changed, just people getting more worried or greedy or environmentally screwed.

Situation normal I would think. The only down side to atheism would be when Mother is being a mother again or the Universe comes up with something totally unexpected or new...then it is all fun and games.

You say Spirituality is as bad or worst than Religion. Please explain your definition of spirituality?

To me, Evolution content is mainly about the unknown earth and spirituality is the greater unknowns Universe. I’m spiritual sided artist with concerns not worries, who thinks of the world as his family. Feel no need for greed, mainly an environmental entertainer and builder of two eco villages right now.

I still don’t get what’s an atheist’s down side is from you or from any atheist. One agnostic told me an atheist only downside was they were too honest. Being honest mean being open too and beside honesty, for me, is the best policy for imagination.

Then why do atheists have lame imagination?

[KichigaiNeko]

You say Spirituality is as bad or worst than Religion. Please explain your definition of spirituality?

"Spirituality", as I have come to understand it, is just a lame cop-out of religious people who don't want to be associated with the crumbling of the Abrahamic religions. It is just another label or 'tribe' a person can lay claim to and so feel that they belong, a set of 'rituals' that can mark their days, weeks, months, years. I have also noted that the more "spiritual or religious" an individual is the more they are high on their own dopamine. I am also to understand from scientific studies (in neurology and sports science) that this is a factor as to why so many people MUST go and perform what ever sport or activity that will produce this high. Some people mistake this "high" for 'spirituality' it is easy to generate and I have done so my self. It really isn't all that special or wonderful. It just is.

To me, Evolution content is mainly about the unknown earth and spirituality is the greater unknowns Universe. I’m spiritual sided artist with concerns not worries, who thinks of the world as his family. Feel no need for greed, mainly an environmental entertainer and builder of two eco villages right now.

You seem to have a very limited view here. Science is ALL about the universe from the excruciatingly tiny to the Massively HUGE. Evolution is only one very, very infantisimal part of the whole exploration science is undertaking (IMHO) I would argue that IF you are fond of giving yourself tickets/ labels then I would settle for "Just an Artist" unless you do those lovely drawings that grace many a Web page.

What is an "environmental entertainer??" A gardener?? And how are your Eco-Villages coming a long?? They aren't new of course..I think the concept was posited in the 1950's or there a bouts. They mostly fail ya know

I still don’t get what’s an atheist’s down side is from you or from any atheist. One agnostic told me an atheist only downside was they were too honest. Being honest mean being open too and beside honesty, for me, is the best policy for imagination.

Atheists don't have a down side I don't think. The freedom to manoeuvre and speculate and test and explore..I personally see no "Down side" Much better than getting stuck with an outmoded label.... Yes Atheists are honesty (generally speaking) I think because that is the science kicking in and dictating the methodology of response to any question. Science doesn't claim to have ALL the answers that is why it will change and develop as new information becomes available. Atheism is not a "Dead-End" ....quite the contrary. "Spiritualism" is very much a 'Dead-End' and is used for those who are too weak to stand on their own two feet and are desperate for guarantees.

Then why do atheists have lame imagination?

Are you referring to Irony?? It is a great stress reliever and used a lot on this forum. Atheists NOT artistic?? While I do not have a complete list of EVERY Atheist artist, I think you will find that artistic and creative people are the ONLY people who can claim are atheistic. Have YOU met EVERY artist on this planet?? Neither have I; yet I do think that every atheist on this forum is artistic and creative and lives an UN-lame lifestyle. Suffice to say atheists HAVE lived and survived it all.

Your first language isn't english is it??

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As an aside and since you seem to love Architectural Landscaping have you seen this thread??
http://atheistforums.org/thread-5983.html

I am working on a new property that incorporates an 'edible landscape' with the use of solar passive technology and water wise plantings for one of the driest places on the planet.

I think it is very creative and rather artistic.

[ElDinero]

You'll have to get used to this, Kitch. He is obsessed with declaring that atheists lack imagination and adding commentary on the effects of that, even though I've told him about a hundred times that he hasn't proven that to be true. Honestly, I don't think I've seen him make more than five posts where he doesn't bring it up. It's absolutely ridiculous of course, but fucked if he's letting it go.

[KichigaiNeko]

You'll have to get used to this, Kitch. He is obsessed with declaring that atheists lack imagination and adding commentary on the effects of that, even though I've told him about a hundred times that he hasn't proven that to be true. Honestly, I don't think I've seen him make more than five posts where he doesn't bring it up. It's absolutely ridiculous of course, but fucked if he's letting it go.

True that El D, that is why I took the time to really answer the guy/ gal??

I really don't believe that english is his/hers first language...the syntax and grammar indicate to me Mediterranean maybe??

[ElDinero]

It isn't. He said before he's lived in mostly Spanish speaking countries, I believe. I sympathise, but he just cannot be understood, so it's nigh impossible to have a conversation with him.

[KichigaiNeko]

It isn't. He said before he's lived in mostly Spanish speaking countries, I believe. I sympathise, but he just cannot be understood, so it's nigh impossible to have a conversation with him.

Thanks El D... that explains alot!! Yes it is VERY hard to understand someone who's first language is from the Mediterranean countries. Every thing is back to front and arse up with care. Russian is easier to understand!!