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Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
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The post wasn't showing up because you had an extra quote tag in the middle of a sentence. I removed it now.
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September 28, 2011 at 4:18 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2011 at 4:34 pm by Simon Moon.)
(September 28, 2011 at 3:24 pm)Zaki Aminu Wrote: And anyway, the fact that something has not been proven to your satisfaction does not mean it is not true, does it? The American continent, for instance, existed long before it was known about in Europe. To have asserted that it didn't exist because there was no evidence about it a millennium ago would have been absurd, would it not? Most atheists do not claim to know, with absolute certainty, that a god does not exist. I am not saying that a god does not exist based on the lack of demonstrable evidence that one does. I'm saying I don't believe one exists. The very fact that the case for the existence of a god has not met its burden of proof is the reason why we don't believe. A god could exist. But without sufficient evidence to support that claim, what should be our justification to believe one does? You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.  RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 4:24 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2011 at 4:26 pm by Justtristo.)
(September 28, 2011 at 3:13 pm)Zaki Aminu Wrote:(September 28, 2011 at 4:06 am)Justtristo Wrote: I recently encounter this excellent blog post by John Loftus which describes the top seven ways Christianity has been debunked by the sciences. It can come in handy when you can say to people that science has disproved the bible and why. Did you read the article I posted may I ask? The article talked nothing about disproving the existence of a god or ultimate reality of some sort. The article was actually about disproving the claims made by Christians which believes in the existence a particular god named Yahweh.
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September 28, 2011 at 4:31 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2011 at 4:37 pm by Zaki Aminu.)
(September 28, 2011 at 4:24 pm)Justtristo Wrote:(September 28, 2011 at 3:13 pm)Zaki Aminu Wrote:(September 28, 2011 at 4:06 am)Justtristo Wrote: I recently encounter this excellent blog post by John Loftus which describes the top seven ways Christianity has been debunked by the sciences. It can come in handy when you can say to people that science has disproved the bible and why. Oh well, if he's not saying he's able to disprove God's Existence then I don't really care what he thinks. But you see his article did start with this statement: "God is dead, Friedrich Nietzsche predicted it over a century ago. No, God did not die. We just came to the realization he never existed in the first place....." So...... (September 28, 2011 at 4:18 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(September 28, 2011 at 3:24 pm)Zaki Aminu Wrote: And anyway, the fact that something has not been proven to your satisfaction does not mean it is not true, does it? The American continent, for instance, existed long before it was known about in Europe. To have asserted that it didn't exist because there was no evidence about it a millennium ago would have been absurd, would it not? Actually, I'm not asking you to open your heart. I'm just noting that, for instance, many people don't understand the evidence for Relativity or Quantum Mechanics. But this does not make the latter any less valid, does it? You are saying you don't understand the proof that has been offered to you for God's Existence. That does not mean God does not Exist. It just means you don't understand the proof for His Existence. That's all. Of-course, if you could offer conclusive proof for His non-existence that would settle the matter. But you can't, can you? RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 4:39 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2011 at 4:40 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Somehow it is unsurprising to me that you are uninterested in the opinions of someone who is not attempting to disprove god's existence (whether they actually are or not, so long as you can tell yourself that they don't).
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(September 28, 2011 at 4:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Somehow it is unsurprising to me that you are uninterested in the opinions of someone who is not attempting to disprove god's existence (whether they actually are or not, so long as you can tell yourself that they don't). If someone confesses ignorance, I'm happy to leave them in that state. But if they profess knowledge then I'm fully entitled to examine them closely on their assertions, am I not? RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 4:46 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2011 at 4:47 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
We're definitely riding the same pony on that count. (though I suppose I'm not big on leaving anyone in ignorance, personally)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (September 28, 2011 at 8:47 am)Ace Otana Wrote: Disprove the existence of Thor or Zeus. Then we'll talk. Hey! I exist! What do I have to do to convince you people?
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems? (September 28, 2011 at 4:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: We're definitely riding the same pony on that count. (though I suppose I'm not big on leaving anyone in ignorance, personally) I would never presume to offer anyone knowledge unless they asked it of me. I then I may consider giving of what little of it that I have. I always wait to be asked. And he's not asked me. |
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