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RE: Where is heaven located? Also, why does God care about homo sapiens?
September 19, 2015 at 4:59 am
(September 18, 2015 at 10:47 pm)Divinity Wrote: Yes, I use the word fuck in every day conversations. I use the word fuck a fucking lot.
What makes you think a creator has to be omnipotent? If it wasn't omnipotent, an entity that created the whole fucking Universe would have to be pretty fucking close to omni fucking potent don't you think?
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RE: Where is heaven located? Also, why does God care about homo sapiens?
September 19, 2015 at 5:01 am
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Nah, not really. In God land this reality could be the equivalent of a wet fart. Maybe it was. We have nothing to compare this to.
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RE: Where is heaven located? Also, why does God care about homo sapiens?
September 19, 2015 at 1:20 pm
(September 18, 2015 at 7:53 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 12:56 am)Godschild Wrote: I agree with Catholic Lady and Drich and I know other Christians who believe the same, heaven is another dimension that exist within this dimension, it explains IMO how God and the angels can move into this dimension, it explains how Christ was able to disappear after His resurrection on a couple of occasions that were recorded in the Bible.
GC
It doesn't 'explain' anything.
I see you do not know what IMO means.
GC
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RE: Where is heaven located? Also, why does God care about homo sapiens?
September 19, 2015 at 1:43 pm
(September 19, 2015 at 4:59 am)TubbyTubby Wrote: If it wasn't omnipotent, an entity that created the whole fucking Universe would have to be pretty fucking close to omni fucking potent don't you think?
No, I fucking don't think that it would have to be fucking close to omni fucking potent. That would be a fucking stupid assumption. Why the fuck would a creator need to be omnipotent? One can do all kinds of crazy shit, and not need to be fucking omnipotent.
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RE: Where is heaven located? Also, why does God care about homo sapiens?
September 19, 2015 at 2:34 pm
If I had created the Universe and anyone dared to suggest that my powers were anything less than omnipotent I would be rather miffed.
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RE: Where is heaven located? Also, why does God care about homo sapiens?
September 19, 2015 at 3:01 pm
(September 19, 2015 at 1:43 pm)Divinity Wrote: (September 19, 2015 at 4:59 am)TubbyTubby Wrote: If it wasn't omnipotent, an entity that created the whole fucking Universe would have to be pretty fucking close to omni fucking potent don't you think?
No, I fucking don't think that it would have to be fucking close to omni fucking potent. That would be a fucking stupid assumption. Why the fuck would a creator need to be omnipotent? One can do all kinds of crazy shit, and not need to be fucking omnipotent.
You say the F word a lot.
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RE: Where is heaven located? Also, why does God care about homo sapiens?
September 19, 2015 at 5:35 pm
(September 19, 2015 at 1:20 pm)Godschild Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 7:53 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: It doesn't 'explain' anything.
I see you do not know what IMO means.
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RE: Where is heaven located? Also, why does God care about homo sapiens?
September 19, 2015 at 9:13 pm
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(September 18, 2015 at 9:43 pm)Divinity Wrote: My beliefs are basically nothing but my guesses from my own reasoning. A fuck ton of cultures have believed in gods of some sort. Now, I don't think any of them got it right. But the idea there was someone who created the universe doesn't seem far-fetched to me. (I know it does to Atheists) Have you ever put any time into seriously challenging that reasoning? Are you sure that it's reason? Some of the statements below don't stand out as reasonable (even though they're all completely understandable).
Quote:Evolution is the best current explanation for how organisms on earth came to exist. Which is why I dismiss most religions (that and most of them have something against vaginas). Everything came from a single cell (or at least that's the current scientific explanation) That cell might even have been god. No clue.
That beef with vag is puzzling, lol...huh? Course, what if god -did- have something against vaginas? Is that really a reason for you to dismiss those religions...is that reasonable? I can see it as a great reason not to be -part- of them...not to bend the knee, but I don't know whether or not it has anything to do with their accuracy. If you're going to believe in a god...why -not- a misogynist god? After all..many human beings are misogynists.......and that seems, from your comments, to be a compelling line of reasoning to you. How have you decided that misogyny isn't one of those characteristics we picked up from our creator?
Quote:. But anyway, if someone (or something) created the universe, then I would imagine it would have some of the same qualities of humans. It might have the same qualities of several different species, all of them, or even none of them. But I imagine it has some human qualities because humans have this desire to create. To discover, and to explore. And with a universe as vast as this one, I'd imagine that a creator would share some of those same qualities. Not because we're special, but because I think creations tend to take on some characteristics of their creator. Now not always, obviously. But much of the time (which is why I'd be inclined to believe many organisms probably share some quality of a creator if there is one) It's hard to say since if we do have a creator, he or she or it has kept its distance from us.
So how does a test fit into that? In general..we're testers of things, so you imagine god to be"The Great Tester of All Things"? We're alot of things...some of them not so generous, why not a rapist god..or an unflinching bot-fly into childrens eyes god? How about a cross dressing god? A flesh eating god? Quadruped god? Compound eyed god? I'm just wondering.....considering all of the vast, vast list of characteristics that we have, or that all other creatures on earth have - why god ends up sounding like a case example of modern western human being when you describe it? Are you sure that you're not describing yourself?
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RE: Where is heaven located? Also, why does God care about homo sapiens?
September 19, 2015 at 9:26 pm
Heaven is the same place its always been. If too burrow from rob here allow me to express it like this
Lets say that S in this means all scientific knowledge and A means all of our arts knowledge combine them and you get the entirety of human progress.
That means S+A=P and the equation for heavens locations is best expressed as (As per the comments in this thread) Heaven=P+1
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Where is heaven located? Also, why does God care about homo sapiens?
September 19, 2015 at 10:29 pm
(September 19, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 19, 2015 at 1:43 pm)Divinity Wrote: No, I fucking don't think that it would have to be fucking close to omni fucking potent. That would be a fucking stupid assumption. Why the fuck would a creator need to be omnipotent? One can do all kinds of crazy shit, and not need to be fucking omnipotent.
You say the F word a lot.
Seriously...? Better call the cops!!
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