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October 29, 2015 at 12:49 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2015 at 12:54 pm by jenny1972.)
(October 29, 2015 at 12:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 12:04 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: actually science doesnt explain at all WHY there are different species and different organisms all living on the same earthYeah...it does. There are different species living on this planet because the genetic disparity between those groups is too wide for successful reproduction between them. yes but why there are genetic variations is what is debatable , you just dont want to question your religion (October 29, 2015 at 12:24 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 11:26 am)jenny1972 Wrote: what would account for different species of living things then ? why monkeys and humans and plants and worms and birds under this theory why wouldnt every living thing existing on the same earth under the same conditions be exactly the same and have the same properties ?But every living thing on Earth does not live under the same conditions. The Earth offers many different conditions—cold, hot, dry, humid, high altitude, low altitude, crowded population, sparse population, different enimies, different foods, etc. so your argument, as is often the case with theist arguments, depends on a hypothetical situation. since organisms need nurishment to survive one organism could not be physically separated from another organism and survive for long right ?
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October 29, 2015 at 1:00 pm
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Quote:yes but why there are genetic variations is what is debatable , you just dont want to question your religion Let me get this straight, everytime science answers one of your "why" questions..you'll just return with a new "why" question....and then after all of that, pretend that science hasn't been answering your "why" questions all along? If it hadn't..you wouldn't need to keep asking new questions. Would you like me to explain why there is genetic variation.......will it matter if I do? Isn't your beef, more accurately framed..not that science -can't- answer a why question, but that science -hasn't- answered every question you might dream up (even if it has answered many...for example every question you've asked thusfar)? What exactly are you arguing, again?
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October 29, 2015 at 1:00 pm
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(October 29, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 12:27 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: isnt that what the Big Bang religion is though people insisting that they DO know ? yes the "evidence" is the discovery of a mysterious noise that scientists assume must me the remnant of the " big bang " event that inexplicably created everything from nothing . christianity has evidence too
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John LennonThe easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain   (October 29, 2015 at 12:49 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 12:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Yeah...it does. There are different species living on this planet because the genetic disparity between those groups is too wide for successful reproduction between them. No, it's actually not debatable. We understand it fully. *I* understand it fully, because I'm a degreed expert in evolutionary biology, and there are many who understand it much better than I do. We question it constantly. That's what science is. If this understanding is a religion, then Gravity is a religion, nuclear fission is a religion, relativity is a religion, germs are a religion...
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.  (October 29, 2015 at 1:00 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Esquilax Wrote: We have evidence for the big bang... not that you bothered to understand the subject at all before deciding you knew enough to disagree with it. Because what could match your complete ignorance, right?  Stop. Just . . . stop. Get thee to a library! (October 29, 2015 at 12:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 12:20 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: the only thing im saying is that based on the reality of our circumstances how different organisms evolved into different living things all on the same earth , the same environment under the same sun that its very likely that there is a reason for that and its a result of an intelligent plan ..... we know of planets that are capable of containing complex life and yet they dont . and those planets have been subjected to the same big bang right ?I wanted to touch on something Rocket mentioned, above. This business about humans being the only species on earth - and that being some evidence, as you see it, for evolution (or would be). How does "we are not the apex" and -this-..flow from the same persons mouth? nobody can prove anything either way there is no proof that there is an intelligent design although there are indications that there could be . and there also is no proof in the unlikely possibility that everything that exists is just the result of random accidental perfect coordination between very different organisms that all live on the same earth . other than the big bang leftover noise that the scientist religious leaders have assumed must be from the big bang event.
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Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John LennonThe easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 1:13 pm
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