(September 25, 2016 at 9:30 am)RobertE Wrote:

(September 25, 2016 at 9:28 am)Thena323 Wrote:

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I wouldn't have to point this out to a reasonable adult. 

The majority of US blacks aren't Crips, Bloods or gang members. They're actually working, middle class Americans. 
Difficult to fathom, I know. 

Google it, if you don't believe me.

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Once you do, please, proceed to circumvent that knowledge in lieu of clinging to your preferred pet belief for dear life. Continue to dismiss and ignore the reality of millions of black US service members, who've served and died for this country, firefighters, nurses, police officers, teachers, and ordinary working individuals who get up every morning and provide for their families, pay taxes, and volunteer their time to help others.

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As you sit on your soapbox and continue to propagate the false belief that American blacks in general, do not work or contribute to American society, know that you are proving yourself to be a failure at utilizing even the most basic logic. You're in absolutely no position to ridicule theists on any level, as you've proven yourself, time and time again, to be perfectly willing to wrap any number of false beliefs around you like warm, fuzzy blankets and never, ever let them go; FACTS be damned.

You give nothing but lip service to logic and reason, RobertE. You're a hypocrite of the highest order. 

You are a joke.

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Bold is mine.

These are the only ones that I have real time for. Those who love the United States, those who wanted to integrate and mingle with other races. However, the newer generation, those born in the 2000s are a far cry from those you have listed above. This is the same for the white generation of young people born in the 2000s, where they are unruly, they know no bounds, no limits to what they can do. 

Many thanks Thena. I love you too....

So, your real issue is with minors sixteen and younger, not working or contributing to society then? You mean to tell me that you've been working this 'all black Americans are vile, worthless animals' angle, because you were worked up over some whippersnappers?

Alrighty, then!

(September 25, 2016 at 2:18 pm)Thena323 Wrote:

(September 25, 2016 at 9:30 am)RobertE Wrote: Bold is mine.

These are the only ones that I have real time for. Those who love the United States, those who wanted to integrate and mingle with other races. However, the newer generation, those born in the 2000s are a far cry from those you have listed above. This is the same for the white generation of young people born in the 2000s, where they are unruly, they know no bounds, no limits to what they can do. 

Many thanks Thena. I love you too....

So, your real issue is with minors sixteen and younger, not working or contributing to society then? You mean to tell me that you've been working this 'all black Americans are vile, worthless animals' angle, because you were worked up over some whippersnappers?

Alrighty, then!

I did already state the 16-25 in a post just recently Thena. We have the same problem in the United Kingdom with the Chav culture. Anyway, this is what I grew up with when I was brought up in Moss Side Manchester many moons ago. This is a fantastic documentary on the Gooch Gang which was a gang that ruled the roost in their area of Manchester with regards to drugs and murders. At the end of the day, anyone of any race can deal in drugs and kill people and thus, it will bring a negative effect on society and the community and innocent people get murdered because of it, and yes, I know it happens in the USA too. In fact, when I watched the testimonies of Ucal Chins family and Tyrone Gilberts family was moving and speaks volumes about life with drugs and how it destroys families. Sometimes, it feels that instead of the cops shooting at people, they should get at the heart of the problem; drugs, and no, drugs can be dealt from any gang, not just blacks.

(September 24, 2016 at 2:28 pm)Lying piece of shit Wrote: The first legal slave owner in America was black and he owned white slaves. Anthony Johnson (BC 1600 – 1670) was an Angolan who achieved freedom in the early 17th century Colony of Virginia. Johnson was captured in his native Angola by an enemy tribe and sold to Arab (Muslim) slave traders.Apr 27, 2015

Wrong you lying piece of shit. As I documented above thread the first slave under the law in the US was named John Punch, whose indenture was made permanent in 1640, 16 years before the Casor civil case. That makes Punch's owner Huw Gwyn the first documented legal slaveholder in the US. Then you've got the state of Massachusetts instituting the first law legalising slavery in the 13 colonies in 1641*, followed shortly afterwards by the other twelve. It's amazing that you can continue the lie that Johnson was the first slaveowner in America when slavery was established as legal at least fifteen years prior to his civil case, and frankly was legal earlier, due to the fact that under English law at the time, if you were convicted to life imprisonment you could be sold off as a permanent indentured servant (i.e. a slave).

And that's not even touching the Spanish colonies where their most catholic majesties owned slaves as far back as 1501, or even the native populations some of whom had slavery going back as historians can make out.

So your lying words trying to excuse slavery have once again been exposed, and your continuous lying been shown for what it is you piece of shit.

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Liberty 91 Wrote:There shall never be any bond slavery, villeinage, or captivity amongst us unless it be lawful captives taken in just wars, and such strangers as willingly sell themselves or are sold to us. And these shall have all the liberties and Christian usages which the law of God established in Israel concerning such persons cloth morally require. This exempts none from servitude who shall be judged thereto by authority.

(September 24, 2016 at 6:29 pm)RobertE Wrote: I got into trouble when I was 15 years of age. I gave myself up. You assume your own actions. Since then, not a thing. When I was growing up, my parents were unemployed for most of the time I was in secondary school where my friends had VCRs, televisions, games. My parents didn't own not one single thing like that in the 1980s. We didn't have a car, we didn't have a fixed telephone which was the norm in the days. So, sorry to burst your bubble but luck didn't play a part in my life.

Boo-fucking-hoo. There are thousands of people with the same story. But what I'd like to know, if you had such a hard life when you were younger (and I'm not about to take the word of a man who is so willing to lie about everything else), why are you so quick to kick others who are now in the same place where you were, or worse? Are you so lacking in empathy that you can't see a mirror of yourself in others, or are you so greedy that you don't want others to enjoy the advantages you now own?

Quote: Hard work did. My father grew up without a dad since he died in WWII, so he had to wear hand me downs to school. He had no education, and neither did my mother. Being poor teaches you things in life and not to take things for granted. I still have an iPhone 3g and it is 6 years old. I can afford any of the newer inventions if I want to but why, when I have my children to think about.

Being poor, intelligent and empathetic teaches you that very little of what you get in this world is down to you alone. No matter how clever you are, no matter how hard working, no matter how frugal, where you grow up, your support group (i.e. family and friends), the attitude of your country's government and it's financial ability to push that attitude count for far more in how well you work out than anything you'll ever do for yourself. If Bill Gates were born in Cambodia he'd be as poor as dirt, give a Cambodian street child the same advantages as Bill Gates had and he'd likely turn out a better person than Gates (though probably not as rich).

(September 24, 2016 at 2:28 pm)Drich Wrote: [...]
If you think I read the wiki page wrong I included another page that supports my original assessment. So now what else you got?

What I got? I'll give you a hint - you can swivel on it...

But seriously - it's horse-sh*t. What is this fly-by-night blog you linked to? That's the best historical source you found? Am I supposed to be impressed? LOLOLOL.... Are you f*cking kidding me?

I would love to argue history with you, but I don't really see the point, since you'll clearly just stubbornly believe the fantastic, unsupported accounts, that agree with your preconceived notions - because that's what irredeemable morons do. And even if the first slave owner in North America was an African, it would make no difference anyway - this sort of factoids are only good for slimy bigots, like you, to jerk off to.

All I meant to point out was that you originally linked to a wikipedia page that didn't support your dumb claim - which you did. And the blog, that you're linking to now - you can stick it up your rectum, if there's any space there left. I don't need to disprove every claim of every ideologically motivated nut-job on the web.

(September 25, 2016 at 6:07 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:

(September 24, 2016 at 6:29 pm)RobertE Wrote: I got into trouble when I was 15 years of age. I gave myself up. You assume your own actions. Since then, not a thing. When I was growing up, my parents were unemployed for most of the time I was in secondary school where my friends had VCRs, televisions, games. My parents didn't own not one single thing like that in the 1980s. We didn't have a car, we didn't have a fixed telephone which was the norm in the days. So, sorry to burst your bubble but luck didn't play a part in my life.

Boo-fucking-hoo. There are thousands of people with the same story. But what I'd like to know, if you had such a hard life when you were younger (and I'm not about to take the word of a man who is so willing to lie about everything else), why are you so quick to kick others who are now in the same place where you were, or worse? Are you so lacking in empathy that you can't see a mirror of yourself in others, or are you so greedy that you don't want others to enjoy the advantages you now own?

Quote: Hard work did. My father grew up without a dad since he died in WWII, so he had to wear hand me downs to school. He had no education, and neither did my mother. Being poor teaches you things in life and not to take things for granted. I still have an iPhone 3g and it is 6 years old. I can afford any of the newer inventions if I want to but why, when I have my children to think about.

Being poor, intelligent and empathetic teaches you that very little of what you get in this world is down to you alone. No matter how clever you are, no matter how hard working, no matter how frugal, where you grow up, your support group (i.e. family and friends), the attitude of your country's government and it's financial ability to push that attitude count for far more in how well you work out than anything you'll ever do for yourself. If Bill Gates were born in Cambodia he'd be as poor as dirt, give a Cambodian street child the same advantages as Bill Gates had and he'd likely turn out a better person than Gates (though probably not as rich).

Bold is mine.

Only "thousands?" Are you really thah uninformed about real life? As for "kicking others", who are these "others", that you speak of? There are Asians, Indians and other minority groups who have had bad lives that would make the black poor seem rich. A Vietnamian born into poor family in Vietnam is considerably more poor than a black who is born poor in the United States? 

If I wanted to enjoy the riches of my labour, I would do what most people do in the United States, buy two of everything including having two smartphones, two laptops, two playstation 4s etc. However, I only have 1 smartphone from 2009/10. I donate more money to Oxfam than you have had hot dinners too.

(September 24, 2016 at 7:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Weaksauce.

Why are you so obsessed with crisps and bloods? We have far more dangerous gangs over here, look up ms-13.

Bold mine.
I'm sorry, Huggy, that made me laugh... I'm quite sure you meant Crips instead, but that typo was funny.

Who doesn't like the occasional bag of crisps?

(September 25, 2016 at 10:52 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Who doesn't like the occasional bag of crisps?

Depends on the mark. Nothing better than a good Lay.

Anyway, I have already bitten once when spazzycorn quoted my post. I am not likely to bite anymore. Zaijian!!