I loves me some sugar, but not so much I'd push myself on my Sugar.

(December 23, 2017 at 10:25 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: I meant that I hope your husband’s never reacted to “not in the mood” by doing anything worse than begging you until you say “okay.” Hopefully, he’s never resorted to physical force on you (nor you him).

Are you serious???

Lol, well if I need to say it, NO.

...Mr CL has never "physically forced himself" on me. Neither would he ever. Neither is that even close to morally permissable. Holy crap lol. And even "begging until the person gives in" isn't right either.

Yall draw some funny conclusions sometimes, sheesh, were not morally bankrupt monsters, you know lol.

What I said is that in catholicism its not right for a spouse to deny the other of sex for no other reason other than simply bc they are not feeling horny at the moment. Its an encouragement for the "not in the mood" spouse to try harder for the sake of their spouse and a healthy sex life.... rather than just being like "eh, dont really feel like it." Otherwise you can have a situation (that many people have) where the marriage is sexless and one spouse is deprived because the other one refuses to have sex with them for no good reason. And thats not right. That does NOT mean the other spouse has a right to pressure them in any way, much less to force themselves physically!

It's like my friend who was crying to me the other day saying her husband never has sex with her. In catholicism, it wouldnt be right for him to do that unless he has legitimate reason to. But of course it would be even worse for her to react to that by physically forcing him.

Does that make sense?

(December 22, 2017 at 12:40 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(December 22, 2017 at 10:44 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: About 4 times a week

Your husband is a lucky man.

That's about a months worth for me.

And about 5 years worth for me

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(December 22, 2017 at 1:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(December 22, 2017 at 12:40 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Your husband is a lucky man.

That's about a months worth for me.

In Catholicism married couples are not supposed to deny each other of sex unless there is legitimate reason. "I'm not in the mood", is usually not a good enough reason unless there is something else going on. Otherwise, if you're simply just not feeling horny, try harder. For your spouse.

(Eta, those last couple sentences were not directed at you. They are directed at the People who withhold sex from their spouse simply because they're not feeling horny.)

Errrrm.... maybe I should find myself a Catholic woman. LOL

(December 23, 2017 at 12:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(December 23, 2017 at 10:25 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: I meant that I hope your husband’s never reacted to “not in the mood” by doing anything worse than begging you until you say “okay.” Hopefully, he’s never resorted to physical force on you  (nor you him).

Are you serious???

Lol, well if I need to say it, NO.

...Mr CL has never "physically forced himself" on me. Neither would he ever. Neither is that even close to morally permissable. Holy crap lol. And even "begging until the person gives in" isn't right either.

Yall draw some funny conclusions sometimes, sheesh, were not morally bankrupt monsters, you know lol.

What I said is that in catholicism its not right for a spouse to deny the other of sex for no other reason other than simply bc they are not feeling horny at the moment. Its an encouragement for the "not in the mood" spouse to try harder for the sake of their spouse and a healthy sex life.... rather than just being like "eh, dont really feel like it." Otherwise you can have a situation (that many people have) where the marriage is sexless and one spouse is deprived because the other one refuses to have sex with them for no good reason. And thats not right. That does NOT mean the other spouse has a right to pressure them in any way, much less to force themselves physically!  

It's like my friend who was crying to me the other day saying her husband never has sex with her. In catholicism, it wouldnt be right for him to do that unless he has legitimate reason to. But of course it would be even worse for her to react to that by physically forcing him.

Does that make sense?

Figured that. Just wanted to be sure.

I love how this thread turned into sex talk

(December 22, 2017 at 1:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: People who withhold sex from their spouse simply because they're not feeling horny.

That seems like a pretty fucking apt reason to me

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(December 23, 2017 at 12:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I love how this thread turned into sex talk

Me too. Taxes are fucking boring. Plus I don't pay any!

Well, except council tax.

(December 23, 2017 at 12:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I love how this thread turned into sex talk

A lot more interesting than taxes.

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(December 23, 2017 at 12:33 pm)Hammy Wrote:

(December 22, 2017 at 1:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: People who withhold sex from their spouse simply because they're not feeling horny.

That seems like a pretty fucking apt reason to me.

Until you aren't getting laid enough because your partner isn't horny. Catholic Lady is right, married people, of both genders need to put out when their partners want. Elsewise it's a major relationship killer. Even if you aren't horny in that exact moment, you will be. Unless the person is a total unteachable doofus in bed.

Another super important one is that both partners initiate sex. Nothing is more annoying then being the only one. But as an atheist free of moral hang ups, I can just find myself a nice and horny girl.

(December 23, 2017 at 12:33 pm)Hammy Wrote:

(December 22, 2017 at 1:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: People who withhold sex from their spouse simply because they're not feeling horny.

That seems like a pretty fucking apt reason to me

The idea is to still try and not become complacent in your marriage and towards your spouse. If I have a headache, am tired, am upset about something, or of there are any issues going on in the marriage, those are valid reasons to deny sex to my spouse (and vice versa). But if I'm fine and just not feeling particularly horny, saying no just out of laziness isn't cool and can be neglectful to my spouse, especially if it becomes habit. What if a person only feels horny like once every month, is it right then to deny sex to your husband or wife except for once a month? I don't think so. I think you have a duty to your spouse to still try, even when you don't particularly feel like it. And not just with sex, but its the same thing with general affection and other things too. Is it right to withhold affection from your spouse unless you are feeling like It? Imo, no.

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(December 23, 2017 at 12:37 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(December 23, 2017 at 12:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I love how this thread turned into sex talk

A lot more interesting than taxes.

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(December 23, 2017 at 12:33 pm)Hammy Wrote: That seems like a pretty fucking apt reason to me.

Until you aren't getting laid enough because your partner isn't horny. Catholic Lady is right, married people, of both genders need to put out when their partners want. Elsewise it's a major relationship killer. Even if you aren't horny in that exact moment, you will be. Unless the person is a total unteachable doofus in bed.

Another super important one is that both partners initiate sex. Nothing is more annoying then being the only one. But as an atheist free of moral hang ups, I can just find myself a nice and horny girl.

I was gonna say the same. Of all the times I don't feel like it but do anyway, I always end up enjoying it once things get going.

Id probably be satisfied with once a week, but Mr wants more. I'm fine with that.

(December 23, 2017 at 12:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(December 23, 2017 at 12:33 pm)Hammy Wrote: That seems like a pretty fucking apt reason to me

The idea is to still try and not become complacent in your marriage and towards your spouse. If I have a headache

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Not a valid reason!

Science has shown that a good orgasm will clear a typical headache right up.

How the hell is any of this in keeping with the OP?