Aside the first two clearly homophobic policies . And yes despite what Road and his ilk would say . Opposing gay marriage is homophobic as is opposing giving equal protection to gays. Some have tried to argue the third is about safe sex . This is a bullshit obfuscation . Name me one organization  that would not be promoting safer sex or would promote the spread of HIV . So no that's not what that sentence means .It's clear to anyone with eyes .This is about taking funding from pro LGBT organizations  and "Change sexual behaviour "  means stop people from being gay . Which is gay conversion therapy. It's clear dog whistling .But road will scream conspiracy theory .

(February 17, 2018 at 5:43 am)Wololo Wrote:

(February 15, 2018 at 3:08 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: His example doesn't seem to rub off . . .

I think he's less hoping that they'll stop being adulterous and more that they'll start being adulterous with him.

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(February 15, 2018 at 11:21 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: No... I'm not debating same sex union "rights" or any of those things.  And if you want to be angry with Pence because he voted against this or that, then all the more power to ya. 

What I am talking about is the distortion of facts in this story, in an attempt to unjustly tear down another person.  To distort and mangle their position and especially their character by what is mostly in your imagination. 

I started out in this, not really knowing much of anything about Pence (other than he is VP).  I was mostly assuming that things where a little distorted and probably over dramatized but wanted to check out the facts of the matter for myself.  What I found is that what was being said was no where near anything based on the actual actions or statements  of VP Pence. 

And when I brought this up, it was basically justified and I was told it was just spin and it would continue, unless he supported the homosexual agenda  NO!.... if you are intentionally spreading  false malicious information in order to malign the character of someone because you disagree with their voting record; that is not just spin.   It is wrong.  It is lying, it is slander. 

If you have a strong case, then stick to that (stay focused on the facts).  This type of behavior only hurts your position.  It's despicable to resort to it and shows a lack of character. 

Now if I misunderstood something, then please.... please correct me.  Condemn the people making false accusations, against the VP and hold them to a high standard.  If there is information I'm missing, then present it..... Not opinions or conspiracy theories that have no basis in facts, but show me the evidence.  You can still not like him, because of his stance on legislation of concern to homosexuals.  Just don't make stuff up and lose your credibility.  It gives others reason to question your motives!

You know, it's exactly this attitude that allowed six-million jews, gypises, homosexuals, socialists, mentally disabled and other groups be gassed in places like Auschwitz.

You are removing the humanity from those you disagree with, exactly like Hitler and Stalin (both christians btw) did.

No I am not. I didn’t in any way say that, nor do I in anyway think that.

But thanks for adding yet another example of what I was talking about.

Seems obvious if one truly wanted to strengthen the family, making it impossible for couples with kids to divorce would be first on the list.

(February 17, 2018 at 7:20 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: No I am not. I didn’t in any way say that, nor do I in anyway think that.

But thanks for adding yet another example of what I was talking about.

So not alone are you a homophobic shitbag, you're dishonest enough to deny your shitbaggery mere hours after you demonstrate it.

I'd say I was surprised, except this is par for the course for you road runner.

Aside to everybody else, am I the only one who thinks the neo nazis are a bunch of dickless cowards? Every time you point out their nastiness and evil attitude all you get is butt hurt. At least with the original crew, they reveled in it.

(February 17, 2018 at 6:31 pm)Wololo Wrote:

(February 17, 2018 at 7:20 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: No I am not. I didn’t in any way say that, nor do I in anyway think that.

But thanks for adding yet another example of what I was talking about.

So not alone are you a homophobic shitbag, you're dishonest enough to deny your shitbaggery mere hours after you demonstrate it.

I'd say I was surprised, except this is par for the course for you road runner.

Aside to everybody else, am I the only one who thinks the neo nazis are a bunch of dickless cowards? Every time you point out their nastiness and evil attitude all you get is butt hurt. At least with the original crew, they reveled in it.

I think you are trying to avoid what I was talking about, by switching things to me. As to my “nastiness”.... I would be curious to see what you are talking about. Fitting as to what I was talking about, I don’t think you have much basis or facts to support your accusations. Just more lies, and over dramatization. Or some might say fake news.

All I need to know about RR is "rights".

Anybody who could debase other humans like that, I have no respect for.

Indeed air quoting rights when it comes to gay people says it all . Oh and being against gay marriage is still homophobic even if you use tradition or religion to justify it .

(February 18, 2018 at 4:12 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: All I need to know about RR is "rights".

Anybody who could debase other humans like that, I have no respect for.

Would it matter if I said that you are wrong? That you are jumping to conclusions based an very little information and making stuff up?

Still, selective enforcement of selected Scripture has been a hallmark of Christianity since Apostle Paul.

Hard to imagine it working otherwise . . . .

(February 18, 2018 at 11:26 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:

(February 18, 2018 at 4:12 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: All I need to know about RR is "rights".

Anybody who could debase other humans like that, I have no respect for.

Would it matter if I said that you are wrong? That you are jumping to conclusions based an very little information and making stuff up?

Prove me wrong. Answer the question that has been posed to you several times.

Why did you put scare quotes around gay "rights" and why do you keep referring to the "gay agenda?"