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The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
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#161
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 10:08 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 10:02 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -and if they were disgusting...why do you follow a god who commands the same?

Get your shit together.

He doesn't. Killing a soul without it killing another soul is forbidden in Islam.
The savagery of non-belief has no place in the faith.
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#162
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 10:09 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 9:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(March 28, 2018 at 8:39 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The moral virtue is simple: loyalty.
Abraham loved his son. And waited to a very long age until he had him. So sacrificing was a test for loyalty more than anything.

Still; if chose to do it God will stop it -like the real story-, if he chose not to, his son will also live. So his son will live in both scenarios.

Loyalty.

Disgusting.  Who would serve a thing that commands you to kill your own child?
The devils inside your squash or some heinous Sophie's Choice devised by a Nazi psychopath!
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 10:09 pm
-and now you're lying about magic book.  Allah is on-board with preemptive strikes.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 10:10 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 10:03 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(March 28, 2018 at 9:53 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: 2-For allowing you to have your entertainment in watching us punch each other.

It seems familiar, doesn't it.  Maybe it's so easy because god hates you?

You know the difference between collateral damage and what your "legend" did?  We don't intend to kill the kid.  We consider it regrettable, rather than an expression of our admirable faith in allah, and for all the shit you talk about the great satan all it took was an internet thread for you to set upon your own brother in faith.

I believe you.
That's why every super-power in the world aim ICMs at the capital cities of other countries.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 10:14 pm
If only the faithful weren't the kind of people who could be led by the nose to kill their kids or lie about thier own books or convictions so easily, eh?  Unmovable people.  People who couldn't be bought or negotiated with at any price, people like........oh fuck..wait a minute.....




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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 10:17 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 10:09 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -and now you're lying about magic book.  Allah is on-board with preemptive strikes.

Lie ??
This is the verse:
Quote:Sura 5, The Quran:
( 32 )   Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
( 285 )   The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], "We make no distinction between any of His messengers." And they say, "We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination."

What was written on Jews; is written on us Muslims; BTW.

For every civilian killed, it's as if whole humanity was killed. The Quran says that. Read it. That's my religion.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 10:28 pm
17 pages in and I still have to remind you that I don;t give a fuck about your religion?

You have alot in common with MK.
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#168
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 10:32 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 10:17 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(March 28, 2018 at 10:09 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -and now you're lying about magic book.  Allah is on-board with preemptive strikes.

Lie ??
This is the verse:
Quote:Sura 5, The Quran:
( 32 )   Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
( 285 )   The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], "We make no distinction between any of His messengers." And they say, "We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination."

What was written on Jews; is written on us Muslims; BTW.

For every civilian killed, it's as if whole humanity was killed. The Quran says that. Read it. That's my religion.
Every person on this forum is capable of imagining a precept such as "as if whole humanity was killed". That is the poetic capacity of a teenager alienated by their society's warmongering. No gods needed!
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 10:37 pm (This post was last modified: March 28, 2018 at 10:39 pm by WinterHold.)
(March 28, 2018 at 10:28 pm)Khemikal Wrote: 17 pages in and I still have to remind you that I don;t give a fuck about your religion?

You have alot in common with MK.

Dear God; no.
It extended to 17 pages because everybody hold to their view long, long before the discussion.

In fact, all of us held that in common; as it seems.
But I consider myself a winner: because you said Islam advocates killing without a reason.
And accused me of being a liar when I said otherwise.

Ignoring this verse from the Quran:
Quote:Sura 5, The Quran:

( 32 )   Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.



Caring or not; I don't frankly care. But don't spread rumors without a base.For example, I don't care about Marylin Manson. But don't you lie to me and say rumors about him, it is insulting to me and make me feel like a cow.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
March 28, 2018 at 10:49 pm (This post was last modified: March 28, 2018 at 10:57 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Why would I spread rumors about Manson?  Guy made his nut at Johns Pass, where and when I came up.   Nice guy.

You consider yourself a winner(whatever the hell that means)....but you lament the corpse of the ummah..and this thread demonstrates why it died so easily.  It had the entire world at it;s fingertips..but it couldn;t stop bickering about ghosts that don't exist or the rightful prince to a throne of blood.  You guys can't even talk around each other on an internet message board, a thousand years later, without starting that old war all over again.

Vae Victus.



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