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RE: THE Gun Thread
June 8, 2022 at 10:24 pm
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(June 8, 2022 at 6:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Funny thing about that - countries that have taken steps to limit the number of guns in private hands don’t seem to be terrorized by gangs of thugs toting fully automatic submachine guns.
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Nor would we be here, unless you count the gun nuts already doing that..but it's silly to begin with, as americas gun violence problem is actually a rural problem. Even the mass shootings are a rural problem.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
June 8, 2022 at 11:29 pm
(June 8, 2022 at 10:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (June 8, 2022 at 6:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Funny thing about that - countries that have taken steps to limit the number of guns in private hands don’t seem to be terrorized by gangs of thugs toting fully automatic submachine guns.
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Nor would we be here, unless you count the gun nuts already doing that..but it's silly to begin with, as americas gun violence problem is actually a rural problem. Even the mass shootings are a rural problem.
No, it really is an all zip code problem. Urban, suburban and rural. Locations certainly vary, but firearm violence is everywhere.
I have always hated "senseless" and "Isolated incident" used in actualities or interviews. Every shooting makes sense, in the home or mass shooting. Someone flipped out, wanted revenge, didn't want to lose their house or children, had mental health issues, got mad at their neighbor. Had road rage. And firearm injury and deaths in the home count too, not just mass shootings, and those injuries and deaths can and do happen in in all zip codes.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
June 9, 2022 at 12:59 am
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You still have not answered Boru' s question - the same fucking question YOU ask - ad nauseum - how many guns should there be?
A number you greaseball. Give us a fucking number.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
June 9, 2022 at 1:21 am
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If I had a dime for every question you dodge id be richer than Elon Musk so lay off. 
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RE: THE Gun Thread
June 9, 2022 at 1:23 am
(June 8, 2022 at 10:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (June 8, 2022 at 6:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Funny thing about that - countries that have taken steps to limit the number of guns in private hands don’t seem to be terrorized by gangs of thugs toting fully automatic submachine guns.
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Nor would we be here, unless you count the gun nuts already doing that..but it's silly to begin with, as americas gun violence problem is actually a rural problem. Even the mass shootings are a rural problem. True
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RE: THE Gun Thread
June 9, 2022 at 2:02 am
(June 8, 2022 at 6:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (June 8, 2022 at 6:07 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: The funny part - he has NO idea what limiting the number of guns would do.
Market forces - as proven through history - would drive up the price of existing guns to ridiculous levels. The next thing would be the manufacture of illegal guns.
Do you know what is the simplest - by far - repeating firearm that can be constructed?
Full auto submachine guns.
Guess what the gangbangers would be toting????
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Funny thing about that - countries that have taken steps to limit the number of guns in private hands don’t seem to be terrorized by gangs of thugs toting fully automatic submachine guns.
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And now imagine he had access to an AR-15.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
June 9, 2022 at 3:16 am
(June 8, 2022 at 9:05 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (June 8, 2022 at 6:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Funny thing about that - countries that have taken steps to limit the number of guns in private hands don’t seem to be terrorized by gangs of thugs toting fully automatic submachine guns.
Boru
Why would they when cheaper guns are available?
Do you know how to build a gun? From sctatch?
I know I could. I know at least a dozen guys who could. It is NOT rocket science. Any good machinist could build a gun - and the simplest is a sub-gun. Look at the complexity of a Bren, a Sten, a Mac10 or M2 sub gun. They contain the fewest pieces of any repeater. A revolver is by comparison a much harder build requiring much more complicated, specialized machine tooling.
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Capitalists have a long history of selling knowledge - if the price is right.
But you said that limiting guns would make the price of existing guns 'rise to ridiculous levels', which would in turn lead to the manufacture of illegal guns, which would result in the nightmare scenario of gangbangers with submachine guns.
None of that happens in countries that restrict gun ownership. Not here, not the UK, not Canada, not Australia, not Japan...not anywhere. I researched the price of semi-auto shotguns in each of those countries and it doesn't vary by more than about 20 percent (up or down) than US prices. And as far as I can tell (though it's admittedly a harder thing to research), not a single one of those countries appears to be struggling with the problem of home-made submachine guns.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
June 9, 2022 at 3:20 am
(June 8, 2022 at 10:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (June 8, 2022 at 6:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Funny thing about that - countries that have taken steps to limit the number of guns in private hands don’t seem to be terrorized by gangs of thugs toting fully automatic submachine guns.
Boru
Nor would we be here, unless you count the gun nuts already doing that..but it's silly to begin with, as americas gun violence problem is actually a rural problem. Even the mass shootings are a rural problem.
There will always be people who make their own stuff, guns included. But I'm unaware that restricting firerarms has ever resulted in OLB's postapocalyptic nightmare scenario of roving bands of gangbangers terrorizing the land with their homemade machine guns.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
June 9, 2022 at 3:20 am
(June 9, 2022 at 3:16 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (June 8, 2022 at 9:05 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Why would they when cheaper guns are available?
Do you know how to build a gun? From sctatch?
I know I could. I know at least a dozen guys who could. It is NOT rocket science. Any good machinist could build a gun - and the simplest is a sub-gun. Look at the complexity of a Bren, a Sten, a Mac10 or M2 sub gun. They contain the fewest pieces of any repeater. A revolver is by comparison a much harder build requiring much more complicated, specialized machine tooling.
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Capitalists have a long history of selling knowledge - if the price is right.
But you said that limiting guns would make the price of existing guns 'rise to ridiculous levels', which would in turn lead to the manufacture of illegal guns, which would result in the nightmare scenario of gangbangers with submachine guns.
None of that happens in countries that restrict gun ownership. Not here, not the UK, not Canada, not Australia, not Japan...not anywhere. I researched the price of semi-auto shotguns in each of those countries and it doesn't vary by more than about 20 percent (up or down) than US prices. And as far as I can tell (though it's admittedly a harder thing to research), not a single one of those countries appears to be struggling with the problem of home-made submachine guns.
Boru Yup, not a lot of Semi-Automatic wielding "gangbangers" about in Ottawa I can tell you that.
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RE: THE Gun Thread
June 9, 2022 at 6:25 am
(June 9, 2022 at 3:20 am)Helios Wrote: Yup, not a lot of Semi-Automatic wielding "gangbangers" about in Ottawa I can tell you that. Not in Bavaria either.
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