(July 26, 2023 at 7:35 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(July 25, 2023 at 10:41 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Why did your godthing invent MS and why did it think YOU need to suffer with it?

So I get tested: would I help others, be good despite the tiring symptoms and disabling effects; or turn into a desperate demon and pour my frustration and pain on others?

Also, would I be thankful for the blessings I still have -like body, movement, sight, taste-, or defy and be angry and desperate?

Like the difference between a depressed always angry fucker who goes on a killing rampage in a highschool, and a philanthropy enthusiast helping poor people.

M.S, Cancer, disease and misery are there just to make life a test ground for humans: you either turn up good or bad despite the scourge.

Yeah, I guess there really was no other way for your god to know whether you'd be a philanthropist or a school shooter besides giving you ms.

I've been thinking of finding some deer ticks so I can give my kids tb, see if they rob a liquor store or something.

(July 26, 2023 at 7:15 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(July 25, 2023 at 10:34 am)emjay Wrote: I'm sorry to hear that. My sister has pretty much the same thing, and can barely get up the stairs sometimes. It's just so horrible seeing someone who used to be so vibrant and full of life reduced to that.

I hope she learns how to take shortcuts to avoid the disabling symptoms of this disease; the more she spends time with this disease the more her brain will adapt.

Unfortunately she has already been disabled a lot by her illness, for instance having to install a stairlift in her home, but what she has is ME not MS; they sounded similar based on what you described, and I often tend to get those two mixed up sadly, so, sorry for that misunderstanding.

(July 26, 2023 at 7:35 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(July 25, 2023 at 10:41 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Why did your godthing invent MS and why did it think YOU need to suffer with it?

So I get tested

Why do you get tested and not millions of others?

(July 26, 2023 at 8:11 am)h4ym4n Wrote:

(July 26, 2023 at 7:35 am)WinterHold Wrote: So I get tested: would I help others, be good despite the tiring symptoms and disabling effects; or turn into a desperate demon and pour my frustration and pain on others?

Also, would I be thankful for the blessings I still have -like body, movement, sight, taste-, or defy and be angry and desperate?

Like the difference between a depressed always angry fucker who goes on a killing rampage in a highschool, and a philanthropy enthusiast helping poor people.

M.S, Cancer, disease and misery are there just to make life a test ground for humans: you either turn up good or bad despite the scourge.

If you were aborted would you be with your god in paradise instead of god punishing you all these years and all the years your god wants to torture you here on earth?

Well, as a general rule: you don't get punished until you are capable to think and commit sin. 
Fetuses don't even have creatures around them to sin against, they also can't hurt themselves.

So no torture for fetuses; they are incapable of sinning.

(July 26, 2023 at 8:49 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(July 26, 2023 at 7:35 am)WinterHold Wrote: So I get tested: would I help others, be good despite the tiring symptoms and disabling effects; or turn into a desperate demon and pour my frustration and pain on others?

Also, would I be thankful for the blessings I still have -like body, movement, sight, taste-, or defy and be angry and desperate?

Like the difference between a depressed always angry fucker who goes on a killing rampage in a highschool, and a philanthropy enthusiast helping poor people.

M.S, Cancer, disease and misery are there just to make life a test ground for humans: you either turn up good or bad despite the scourge.

Yeah, I guess there really was no other way for your god to know whether you'd be a philanthropist or a school shooter besides giving you ms.

I've been thinking of finding some deer ticks so I can give my kids tb, see if they rob a liquor store or something.

No, he knows everything.
But humans are the limited creatures that need a test to either sin or do good in.

(July 26, 2023 at 8:49 am)emjay Wrote:

(July 26, 2023 at 7:15 am)WinterHold Wrote: I hope she learns how to take shortcuts to avoid the disabling symptoms of this disease; the more she spends time with this disease the more her brain will adapt.

Unfortunately she has already been disabled a lot by her illness, for instance having to install a stairlift in her home, but what she has is ME not MS; they sounded similar based on what you described, and I often tend to get those two mixed up sadly, so, sorry for that misunderstanding.

Isn't M.E the one with 'light sensitivity' symptom?
Pretty harsh condition if it's M.E.

(July 26, 2023 at 9:11 am)Deesse23 Wrote:

(July 26, 2023 at 7:35 am)WinterHold Wrote: So I get tested

Why do you get tested and not millions of others?

Everybody get tested; the exam is different for everybody.
Some become sick, some become wealthy: would the wealthy spend money to cause misery or do good? would the sick become desperate and bad, or become thankful and good?

(July 26, 2023 at 1:52 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(July 26, 2023 at 9:11 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Why do you get tested and not millions of others?

Everybody get tested; the exam is different for everybody.
Some become sick, some become wealthy: would the wealthy spend money to cause misery or do good? would the sick become desperate and bad, or become thankful and good?

I didnt get tested.

(July 26, 2023 at 1:25 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(July 26, 2023 at 8:11 am)h4ym4n Wrote: If you were aborted would you be with your god in paradise instead of god punishing you all these years and all the years your god wants to torture you here on earth?

Well, as a general rule: you don't get punished until you are capable to think and commit sin. 
Fetuses don't even have creatures around them to sin against, they also can't hurt themselves.

So no torture for fetuses; they are incapable of sinning.

You guys really know how to tap dance. 

You and Xavier can’t just say YES, you would be in paradise and there is nothing wrong, religiously, with abortion.


Please Winter and Xavier correct me if I’m wrong.

(July 26, 2023 at 1:27 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(July 26, 2023 at 8:49 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yeah, I guess there really was no other way for your god to know whether you'd be a philanthropist or a school shooter besides giving you ms.

I've been thinking of finding some deer ticks so I can give my kids tb, see if they rob a liquor store or something.

No, he knows everything.
But humans are the limited creatures that need a test to either sin or do good in.

Apparently not, he arranges for tests.  Like MS - or being born poor. You hand me a person to drop into either scenario and I..lowly human worm that I am, am going to predict that the person acts exactly as expected. Doesn't really say anything about them so much as it circumscribes their circumstance and opportunity - but fuck it!

Your god...though, he's interested.....he doesn't understand how any of this works. Which is fine, ofc, btw. Why would a god know anything about being a person. Just makes you look stupid...which gods probably don't care about, being gods. Day 3650 - my kid, despite many fleshly challenges, stubbornly refuses to rob a liquor store. I'm never going to collect any useful data at this rate. To be blunt, your god sounds like you. You don't know why shit happens, and you cant even figure out why people do the things they do. It's all a dumpster fire, you see nothing but....fatigue...and the actions of other people mystify you, even when...you assume...they mirror your own experience.

You're miserable...and so, you worship a miserable notion of god.