One of the most important lesson I learned in Middle School was that problem (mathematical or real life problems) all have a solution. You just need to look more carefully and find the solution because it is always there.
 
Antonio Guterres is actually speaking in a tone that is similar to his tone on climates change (and similar to his tone during the COVID crisis). I don’t know if it is ok to simply ignore UN institutions and UN warning on the issues of this world.
 
 https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/un-c...30130.html
 
Something very serious is currently happening in Gaza (and the whole Muslim world if you look at it).
 
1) As even most African countries are gradually moving toward more sustainable political and economic models and trying to progress toward a more modern lifestyle, the Muslim world is doing the opposite. After the decolonization of the 1960’s they chose authoritarian governments. Now these governments have all collapsed (except in Egypt and perhaps Pakistan). And now they seem to be moving to more “Islamic” ways of doing things. Which is also complete BS. You can’t solve real problems (like women being uneducated, unemployed and forcefully married at the age of 15 and bearing a new baby every year or so for the rest of their lives) with a spiritual toolbox. You need rational approaches backed by reason and science. When is the Arab world going to understand that?
 
2) Why doesn’t Israel simply remove all of these populations and take whatever it wants to take and end this once and for all?
 
- You know: I believe that when you are intellectually or culturally more advanced, I think you have some moral obligation toward less intellectually advanced people who (in most cases) understand far less then you do.
 
So I don’t think Israel can simply stay in Gaza killing a few dozen people every single day and make us all watch these atrocities.
 
I am also tired of this “Promised land” idea. My only vision is that it is OK for each ethnic group on this world to have a piece of land they can call “my own”. But I don’t think that, having just said that, I have brought my self in a problem that is impossible to solve. Netanyahu like people are the ones claiming “that there is no solution” so that they can keep doing what they are doing.
So I don’t know. What’s your approach on this?

The United States of Earth. Problem solved.

(July 27, 2025 at 11:02 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: One of the most important lesson I learned in Middle School was that problem (mathematical or real life problems) all have a solution. You just need to look more carefully and find the solution because it is always there.
 
Antonio Guterres is actually speaking in a tone that is similar to his tone on climates change (and similar to his tone during the COVID crisis). I don’t know if it is ok to simply ignore UN institutions and UN warning on the issues of this world.
 
 https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/un-c...30130.html
 
Something very serious is currently happening in Gaza (and the whole Muslim world if you look at it).
 
1) As even most African countries are gradually moving toward more sustainable political and economic models and trying to progress toward a more modern lifestyle, the Muslim world is doing the opposite. After the decolonization of the 1960’s they chose authoritarian governments. Now these governments have all collapsed (except in Egypt and perhaps Pakistan). And now they seem to be moving to more “Islamic” ways of doing things. Which is also complete BS. You can’t solve real problems (like women being uneducated, unemployed and forcefully married at the age of 15 and bearing a new baby every year or so for the rest of their lives) with a spiritual toolbox. You need rational approaches backed by reason and science. When is the Arab world going to understand that?
 
2) Why doesn’t Israel simply remove all of these populations and take whatever it wants to take and end this once and for all?
 
- You know: I believe that when you are intellectually or culturally more advanced, I think you have some moral obligation toward less intellectually advanced people who (in most cases) understand far less then you do.
 
So I don’t think Israel can simply stay in Gaza killing a few dozen people every single day and make us all watch these atrocities.
 
I am also tired of this “Promised land” idea. My only vision is that it is OK for each ethnic group on this world to have a piece of land they can call “my own”. But I don’t think that, having just said that, I have brought my self in a problem that is impossible to solve. Netanyahu like people are the ones claiming “that there is no solution” so that they can keep doing what they are doing.
So I don’t know. What’s your approach on this?

Are you claiming that Israeli Arabs are less ‘intellectually advanced’ than Israeli Jews? I really hope you aren’t.

Boru

(July 27, 2025 at 11:02 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: - You know: I believe that when you are intellectually or culturally more advanced, I think you have some moral obligation toward less intellectually advanced people who (in most cases) understand far less then you do.

Whoa there.

I always suspected that there was something ugly behind the endless smiley faces.

(July 27, 2025 at 11:02 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: 2) Why doesn’t Israel simply remove all of these populations and take whatever it wants to take and end this once and for all?

Among civilized people ethnic cleansings are frowned upon to say it mildly. Not that israel is particularly (or at all) civilized.
 

Quote:So I don’t know. What’s your approach on this?

I'll repeat what I was saying couple of time: israel should be bombed like milosevic forces were. Maybe even occupied if bombing campaign will not stop genocide of Palestinians. It's not chosen country standing above international law but criminal regime that needs to be stopped.

(July 27, 2025 at 11:02 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: 2) Why doesn’t Israel simply remove all of these populations and take whatever it wants to take and end this once and for all?
 

That's exactly what they're doing?

Would it blow your mind if I told you 'Ethnic Groups' are artificial constructs?
hey only exist because people have been told they do, and are gulible enough to believe it.
You can draw whatever imaginary line you like on a map and declare that people born on one side of it are ethnically different from those born on the other and hey presto you just invented 2 new ethnic groups. You can also do this with skin tones, hair colour, genitalia, belief in imaginary friends or how much people have in their bank account.

And yet we're all just talking monkeys flying through space on a giant rock.

Brian Boru:
 
No, I am simply stating that the Muslim world in general is primitive. People are ignorant and even their religion is full of empty superstitions rather than true spirituality. We are talking of a culture that marries 15 year old girls and has them having one child every year even when there is war and starvation.
 
See this article on Hamas:
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/hama...44211.html
 
So the way of these “freedom fighters” is to get Israel to murder as many people as possible so the international community ends up putting more pressure on Israel. (How heroic, these guys are true warriors of Islam – sarcasm - )
 
I truly believe that more civilized countries + the diaspora that originated in these regions should now work to change things a little. Genocide is not the solution. We need to work to heal those wounds. Or even more simply put: Let those who are willing to heal those wounds do their jobs properly.
 
I’ve heard that even the doctors and nurses of Doctors without Borders are trying to do their jobs with one meal every day.
 
Also, I believe that Hamas is a U.S. / Israel creation to weaken or even eradicate whatever is left of the PLO which is the true authority in Gaza + the West Bank.
 
So yes, I’m truly calling for a more compassionate way of doing things.
 
Ivan Denisowich:
 
There was a nice interview on CNN with Christiane Amanpour with two Israeli doctors fighting against Netanyahu’s policies in Gaza. The entire populist speech of the Netanyahu government was decrypted.
To summarize: The State of Israel was born out of genocide. So educated / smart Israelis do not support the policies of Netanyahu. He is the D. Trump of Israel and with his similar minded friend in the white house, he seems to think he can do whatever he wants.
/ As someone who has had it with this war (that is lingering there since before I was born), I’M only thinking, “Why doesn’t he that it all at once and end this thing once and for all?”
 
If there is hell this must be it: Imagine this: Israel wants to kill you all. And your “resistance movement” also wants you to dies because it is a part of their strategy. Israel wants you push you out. Egypt wants to keep you in.
 
Let me be even clearer: there are some 3 million Syrians (fleeing a similar situation) in my country. Still I would support my government if it wanted to take some of those Palestinians in.
 
The other solution being the recognition of the state of Palestine (which is happening in France, Germany and England). And the removal of Israeli troops and settlements from those territories.
 
I’m ok with both solutions.
 
Aegon:
 
No I mean, immediately. And then end this war.
 
Mr Greene:
 
- Yes but how many people understand this? Having nations oppress minority groups is not that uncommon. Because that’s the reality of our time. The US did remove Native Americans from their lands in the past. My country tries to assimilate Kurdish minorities (15 million of them) in the past. Today we speak of integration and ways of living together rather than assimilation.
 
The Ultimate truth is what you are pointing to. But todays reality is…. To keep our national identities while trying to do things in a civilized manner.
 
I mean: People getting shot while trying to get a sack of flour?
 
- This is not OK. I don’t accept this.

"true spirituality"