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Obama care
RE: Obama care
How conservatives see Obama:

"Ba-wah-ha-ha, on your knees you pitiful mortals and bow before me. It is I, the Muslim-atheist-fascist-communist-Kenyan-Indonesian-usurper come to destroy your way of life and take away your freedom fries."

How liberals see Obama:

"Oh, please don't say mean things about me, Mr. Republican. I'll do whatever you want. Here, here's some political giveaways. I'll offer you all kinds of concessions. Just be cool to me, OK? Aw c'mon guys, here's some more stuff. Can't we all just have a group hug? Aw c'mon guys..."
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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(July 27, 2012 at 2:52 pm)A Theist Wrote: Nevertheless, instead of the fox in charge of the hen house, the 800 pound gorilla is now in charge of healthcare. The Obamacare Tax is going to cost $1.76 trillion over the next ten years. Who pays for that? I hope Obama gets voted out so this thing can be repealed. Next thing you know some little government despot somewhere in America will be regulating how many ounces of soda drinks people can have.

I thought you'd already answered that question a few posts back, the american taxpayer, the same people who pay for any other tax here in the U.S. How federal rationing or control of soda ties into healthcare is, to me, far more interesting than anything you've offered thusfar with regards to "Obamacare".
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(July 27, 2012 at 4:28 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(July 27, 2012 at 2:52 pm)A Theist Wrote: Nevertheless, instead of the fox in charge of the hen house, the 800 pound gorilla is now in charge of healthcare. The Obamacare Tax is going to cost $1.76 trillion over the next ten years. Who pays for that? I hope Obama gets voted out so this thing can be repealed. Next thing you know some little government despot somewhere in America will be regulating how many ounces of soda drinks people can have.

I thought you'd already answered that question a few posts back, the american taxpayer, the same people who pay for any other tax here in the U.S. How federal rationing or control of soda ties into healthcare is, to me, far more interesting than anything you've offered thusfar with regards to "Obamacare".
I wasn't tying it to Obamacare. I was being sarcastic with regard to government imposing its will over us from something as huge as forcing us into Obamacare to NYC Mayor Bloomberg regulating how many ounces of sugary drinks people are allowed to buy.....
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/nyregi...wanted=all
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An amusing response to obesity if ever there was one.
(link was epic, thank you..lol)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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"A theist" lolololol what a totally witty name pardon me while I go go laugh in total stony silence.

I already posted information as to who will be taxed. Here's a hint: Of that 1.75 trillion or so, almost all of it will come from private health insurance companies and from high-end premium health insurance plan "sales" taxes. Hardly any of it will come from average Joe Citizen.
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Finally someone on my side!!!!!!!!

Manowar
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(July 27, 2012 at 8:44 am)Stue Denim Wrote: Would starting another thread discussing the differences between libertarianism (where corporations are most definitely not free to do whatever they feel like) and other forms of government be appropriate? Perhaps, but I disagree.

............I would happily participate in that thread but I'm more intrested in why people like the OP, who probably benefits from "obamacare", for some reason is actually opposed to it.

Manowar - What is the main reason you are opposed to the Affordable Health Care Act???
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Did you see our olympic opening ceremony, 15 minutes devoted to celebrating the NHS.
Would the usa be so proud of its useless healthcare system that they seem to want to stay broken.
Obamacare isnt half way to creating a decent system but it was the nearset he was able to claw from the american idiots who vote against their interests.



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http://www.nhs.uk/Services/hospitals/Ove...px?id=1820
http://www.uclh.nhs.uk/OurServices/OurHo.../Home.aspx

Proud of that?
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(July 28, 2012 at 6:28 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Did you see our olympic opening ceremony, 15 minutes devoted to celebrating the NHS.
Would the usa be so proud of its useless healthcare system that they seem to want to stay broken.
Obamacare isnt half way to creating a decent system but it was the nearset he was able to claw from the american idiots who vote against their interests.

Exactly. I'm sure he has a better understanding of how far short it falls of adequate. But I'm also sure he has a far better understanding of what is politically possible in our strange country.
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