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Christians worship a Devil
January 2, 2014 at 11:36 am
There is almost no atrocity too bad for the Demon yahweh. Rape, Child murder, genocide, incest, enslavery, robbery, waging aggressive war are alll things that yahweh is guilty of and Its in their holy book!
And yet this Demon they claim is the Ultimate good!
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RE: Christians worship a Devil
January 2, 2014 at 11:48 am
The funny thing is all that Satan ever did was oppose this. And he is supposed to be evil.
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RE: Christians worship a Devil
January 2, 2014 at 12:05 pm
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(January 2, 2014 at 11:48 am)MarxRaptor Wrote: The funny thing is all that Satan ever did was oppose this. And he is supposed to be evil.
I guess you've never read or heard of the book of Job.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...rsion=NKJV
In this book Satan is given free reign over the life of Job to do whatever He wished to turn Job from God. What does satan do to accomplish this? He rains down all sorts of terror death and hardship. He even wanted to take Job's life, but God would not allow it. Sounds to me like your buddy has more on his mind than just opposing God.
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RE: Christians worship a Devil
January 2, 2014 at 12:31 pm
Why, it's almost as if they were working together.
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RE: Christians worship a Devil
January 2, 2014 at 12:38 pm
(January 2, 2014 at 12:31 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Why, it's almost as if they were working together. ![Thinking Thinking](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/thinking.gif)
Whatever happened to *spoiler alert*?
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RE: Christians worship a Devil
January 2, 2014 at 1:35 pm
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(January 2, 2014 at 11:36 am)là bạn điên Wrote: There is almost no atrocity too bad for the Demon yahweh. Rape, Child murder, genocide, incest, enslavery, robbery, waging aggressive war are alll things that yahweh is guilty of and Its in their holy book!
And yet this Demon they claim is the Ultimate good!
You cannot defeat religion by attacking the lesser truth such as right or wrong statements. What is lesser truth? I define truth in stages starting with the most outstanding truth:
Mathematical Fundamentals: 1 + 1 = 2 in all 11 dimensions including time and space. Even in another Universe, 1 universe + another universe will always give 2 universes and NOTHING else. No conditions can arise where this can be proven wrong. This is true in all 11 dimensions including space and time.
Laws Of Nature: Includes laws of gravity, electrostatics, Newton's mechanics, quantum mechanics and so on. In this universe, they were always true and will remain true forever but this is a lesser truth because in another Universe, the laws may not apply there. According to Brian Green's calculations, in other universes gravity may be reversed, electrostatic forces may be absent so objects can move through each-other without contact and so on. So this truth is not time bound, but it is space bound, it's only true here.
Social order: This is any man given law or morality of right and wrong in society. Killing, raping, stealing, having gay sex. Not only it is space bound, because those are only true on Earth among humans, but it is time bound also because we know that 2,000 years ago, rape was permitted with a small sanction and forced marriage between the rapist and the victim, and now, 2,000 years after, it is not at all permitted. So in at least 2 dimensions, this can never be the truth.
By trying to prove that God did not know the truth by invoking a lesser truth that is bound by 2 or more dimensions like space and time, you're wasting your time because it's purely a matter of opinion. Why pick on these alone? When there are thousands of mathematical contradictions in the Bible, forever proving it NOT to be the word of God?
You think that killing is bad? Allah answers you in Surat Al-Baqarah 2:216:
" Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not."
Argument ends there. Qur'an wins. You have to use truth that is bound by 1 dimension AT MOST. Everything else will not make a decent argument.
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RE: Christians worship a Devil
January 2, 2014 at 1:39 pm
There's also the idea that Jesus (who was supposed to be named Emanuel, but wasn't) is supposed to be the Prince of Peace, but says he comes not to bring peace but a sword. Also the angels say peace to all men, but some apocalyptic christians believe that trying to achieve world peace is a sign of the antichrist.
It's a religion of death, really. Anyone who insists that this world doesn't matter is not good for this world.
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RE: Christians worship a Devil
January 2, 2014 at 1:39 pm
(January 2, 2014 at 12:05 pm)Drich Wrote: (January 2, 2014 at 11:48 am)MarxRaptor Wrote: The funny thing is all that Satan ever did was oppose this. And he is supposed to be evil.
I guess you've never read or heard of the book of Job.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...rsion=NKJV
In this book Satan is given free reign over the life of Job to do whatever He wished to turn Job from God. What does satan do to accomplish this? He rains down all sorts of terror death and hardship. He even wanted to take Job's life, but God would not allow it. Sounds to me like your buddy has more on his mind than just opposing God. Yahweh is such a cunt that he has a bet with Satan about Jobs loyalty and utterly betrays Job who he has contracted to protect. Job who suffers some sort of Stockholm Syndrome still doesn't tell Yahweh that he is an utter shit as he deserves but is so browbeaten he praises the man who betrayed him.
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RE: Christians worship a Devil
January 2, 2014 at 1:42 pm
Giving Job back a bunch of stuff is supposed to make up for it. As if paying the hospital bill and paying for missed work days, plus handing him a check for a million dollars, would make up for me torturing a man for a week.
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RE: Christians worship a Devil
January 2, 2014 at 2:16 pm
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2014 at 2:18 pm by Drich.)
(January 2, 2014 at 1:39 pm)là bạn điên Wrote: (January 2, 2014 at 12:05 pm)Drich Wrote: I guess you've never read or heard of the book of Job.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...rsion=NKJV
In this book Satan is given free reign over the life of Job to do whatever He wished to turn Job from God. What does satan do to accomplish this? He rains down all sorts of terror death and hardship. He even wanted to take Job's life, but God would not allow it. Sounds to me like your buddy has more on his mind than just opposing God. Yahweh is such a cunt that he has a bet with Satan about Jobs loyalty and utterly betrays Job who he has contracted to protect. Job who suffers some sort of Stockholm Syndrome still doesn't tell Yahweh that he is an utter shit as he deserves but is so browbeaten he praises the man who betrayed him.
how is Job betrayed?
(January 2, 2014 at 1:42 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Giving Job back a bunch of stuff is supposed to make up for it. As if paying the hospital bill and paying for missed work days, plus handing him a check for a million dollars, would make up for me torturing a man for a week.
What if it made you the Wealthiest man on the planet? Would a week of Hardship and loyality be worth that?
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