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Genesis 3
#21
RE: Genesis 3
I find that hard to believe, especially since the way to cure leprosy is to kill one dove, sprinkle its blood on another dove, then let that dove go.

I'm actually thinking of going through and doing a book by book analysis of the bible as a literary work. Just examining it honestly. I've got a few weeks and the KJV on audiobook. Could be fun.
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#22
RE: Genesis 3
That sounds like a great idea Smile You could give each line/verse a rating, like 5 stars for something profound that impresses us even now, and 0 stars for something which is blatantly incorrect or immoral. Tedious but possibly correct history gets 1 star, along with banal but vaguely practical advice.

I'm predicting no 5s and a lot of 0s and 1s.
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#23
RE: Genesis 3
I find a lot of Genesis unintentionally funny. Wait until you get to the part where Adam is lonely so god brings him the animals to name. Only after Adam names the animals does god realize that there is no mate among them suitable for the human. Wait. God supposedly created humans but didn't know that Adam would want another human as a mate? Did he expected Adam to have sex with the animals?
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#24
RE: Genesis 3
(December 14, 2014 at 8:14 am)Natachan Wrote: I'm actually thinking of going through and doing a book by book analysis of the bible as a literary work. Just examining it honestly. I've got a few weeks and the KJV on audiobook. Could be fun.

There's something like that already. And it's the KJV, rather handily.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#25
RE: Genesis 3
You guys are funny.
The snake got you to eat of the same tree A&E ate from, rather than the tree of LIFE God offers you.
Must be some genetic deficiency we can blame on God. That's it?

"The woman YOU gave me.." It's her fault.
"It was the snake who beguiled me"...
All of humanity subsequently says:
Me? I didn't do nothin !

When it says "Us" about the Fall- it is the same "Us" that said, "Let us make man in our image".
Father God spoke, the Holy Spirit was brooding and Jesus created..
Pay attention.
You are and will be tested.
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#26
RE: Genesis 3
Where is Jesus mentioned? There is no support of this in the text. Don't project onto it, read the text as it stands. There are multitudes in heaven, and most likely God is speaking to these. There is nothing in the text to support Jesus, or the Holy Spirit.

The serpent is the honest one in this story, which is odd. The serpent tells the truth, and God is the liar. This does however fit in line with the forms of other mythologies of the time. And given how God is portrayed, it also fits with that.
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#27
RE: Genesis 3
(December 14, 2014 at 10:29 am)professor Wrote: You guys are funny.
The snake got you to eat of the same tree A&E ate from, rather than the tree of LIFE God offers you.
Must be some genetic deficiency we can blame on God. That's it?

"The woman YOU gave me.." It's her fault.
"It was the snake who beguiled me"...
All of humanity subsequently says:
Me? I didn't do nothin !

When it says "Us" about the Fall- it is the same "Us" that said, "Let us make man in our image".
Father God spoke, the Holy Spirit was brooding and Jesus created..
Pay attention.
You are and will be tested.

Myth. All myth. You are myth-led, myth-taken.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#28
RE: Genesis 3
Yes, except it's all a made up bullshit story, apparent to anyone with a high school education.
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#29
RE: Genesis 3
All a myth?
Nearly every day you guys prove the blame shift game is still in high gear.
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#30
RE: Genesis 3
(December 13, 2014 at 11:52 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote: There are 3 members to 1 God.
So he'll always win a dick-waving contest, then?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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