(October 7, 2010 at 5:18 pm)Watson Wrote: Way to show your confidence, DP, speaking in such belittling language of something you understand so little of.

All religions are cults, Watson. The only difference between the terms is the word "cult" is never used in the first person.

(October 7, 2010 at 1:10 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: . I stand here having never been defeated on this on this forum yet.

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You do the equivalent of: "Yes it does, no it don't, yes it does, no it don't, yes it does, no it don't"
Yes it does! It's right here! See, right there. context and all!
"No it don't."
Uh... really, it says right here, verses, chapters. Right here.
"No it don't."
Ok, never mind then. Forget it. I give up.
"Ha! I stand undefeated!"

I've discovered where Frodo works for a living.

(October 7, 2010 at 4:47 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Selective vision you have there guys. And I don't think you can get ointment

It must be fun to live in your reality? Someday you should come join the rest of us here on planet earth.

Planet earth locked in a cupboard with all the other twisted people you mean? Face it guys... come out with one single point that holds water and we can talk. Otherwise I'd implore you to stop making yourselves like fools. That doesn't mean you have to agree with me remember... just look at the evidence fairly and admit it's defensible to have an opposing view. I'm holding the opposite and the middle ground here, and I'm tired of defeating you guys so easily.

(October 7, 2010 at 5:08 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: My concern is any religion that has a devil to fight and a hell to save souls from is potentially dangerous.

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I read this on your blog site, (interesting, by the way),...
"He dreams that one day all of humanity will be freed from the shackles of faith."

It would seem that you feel you have a devil to fight as well, to save souls from the "shackles of faith".
Are you dangerous DP? Do Christians have anything to fear from you?

Quote:Time to start pouring bacon grease in the streets. Let the fuckers kneel in that.

Wow. That statement is nearly as dumb as my 14year old brother saying we should nuke the chinese. Congrats

Quote:Murder, terrorrism, and flying passenger planes into buildings pleases the creator?

Do you know anything about Islam?

According to Muslims, suicides go to hell!

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Quote:It would seem that you feel you have a devil to fight as well, to save souls from the "shackles of faith".
Are you dangerous DP? Do Christians have anything to fear from you?

A theist, the reason why they would be burn people at a stake, is rather merciful. They would burn people at a stake to show them what hell would be like, thus, so they would reprent. I completely agree with the Deist Paldain. Any religion who has to 'save souls' or fight some Dualstic devil can commit intellectual suicide and kill people. I was in a Bible study yesterday and someone prayed that the rain would stop, because the devil was making it rain real heavy, it wasnt the cold front which was near us, was it? lol.

(October 8, 2010 at 6:33 am)solja247 Wrote: According to Muslims, suicides go to hell!

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And martyrs get 72 virgins. Look, kid, religions change. This one has changed for the worse along most sects. Let's not forget you used to be able to buy indulgences from the catholic church. Religions change when it makes it easier to spread their mindvirus, destroy their enemies or survive.

(October 8, 2010 at 8:04 am)Jaysyn Wrote:

(October 8, 2010 at 6:33 am)solja247 Wrote: According to Muslims, suicides go to hell!

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And martyrs get 72 virgins. Look, kid, religions change. This one has changed for the worse along most sects. Let's not forget you used to be able to buy indulgences from the catholic church. Religions change when it makes it easier to spread their mindvirus, destroy their enemies or survive.

Sexual repression for this world, seedy mixture of licentiousness and infantilism for the next. Catholic church and radical Islam seems to have that in common. In one a cadre of walking abortions in cassocks dispenses nonsense injunctions against contraceptive use, In the other frigid adult virgins of this world martyr themselves in hopes of being able to get it up in the afterlife.

(October 8, 2010 at 5:49 am)A Theist Wrote: It would seem that you feel you have a devil to fight as well, to save souls from the "shackles of faith".
Are you dangerous DP? Do Christians have anything to fear from you?

If I believed in a literal devil, that is to say some conscious force in the universe with the purpose to spread suffering and evil, I would say that this being was the author of the Islamo-Christian faith. What other tool has been so effective in spreading these things? It's probably the most effective way you can get good people to do evil things.

But I don't believe in a literal devil. There are just bad ideas that spread like viral memes. You don't hate the person sick with the virus, even as you fight the virus. Or if you prefer my shackles metaphor, you don't hate the slave as you fight slavery. This is how I see the Islamo-Christian. Even someone like Fred Phelps is someone I pity as a victim of this mind virus. It's not him speaking but the sickness of his mind.

This is an important distinction with someone who believes in a literal devil that makes bargains with people and schemes with collaborators. Bad ideas spread by they don't make deals. A literal devil can find willing allies and therefore people who share the guilt. Those who believe that their neighbors are working with the devil can be capable of doing anything to them.

Quote:According to Muslims, suicides go to hell!

And according to Christians, thou shalt not kill. Yet, that didn't stop Christians from killing throughout the years.

EDIT TO ADD MORE ON THIS:

When you have a religion that promotes a concept of eternal salvation with the requirement of joining the religion in order to be saved, you have a very dangerous faith. We're not just talking about your salvation but that of everyone you know and love. Would you stop me, using lethal force, if I was trying to throw your son or daughter into a lake of fire? How about if I were telling them that Heaven and Hell aren't real, causing their deconversion and thereby causing them to be thrown into a lake of fire after they die?

No wonder Islamo-Christianity has led to so much violence despite occasional lip service about peace, love and goodwill. All that feel-good stuff gets quickly dumped in the face of the imagined prospect of eternal damnation.