(July 10, 2015 at 12:23 am)Aroura Wrote:

(July 7, 2015 at 11:48 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I can't show this to my husband lol. He's super paranoid  about facebook and keeps threatening to get rid of his account. I won't let him, of course.

It was this comment I was referring to about keeping info from him. 
I share information with husband, and let him make his own decision.  If I knew he was worried about, say the PW security of his Paypal account, then I found out that Paypal had even more risks than he was aware of, I'd tell him.  Keeping the fact the FB is even worse than he fears from him just seemed....I don't know....controlling?  Untrusting?  Dishonest?  Sorry, I'm not trying to be confrontational.  My husband sometimes does things that make me want to tear my hair out, and I don't think he always akes the best decisions, but it's just my nature to be up front about these kinds of things with him, I guess.

(July 9, 2015 at 8:56 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think it's important for both of us to have a facebook because of our lifestyle. We are military so we are far away from family and old friends... plus we will be moving a lot, so that means leaving behind friends that we make all over the country. Obviously, if he really wanted to delete his facebook he'd put his foot down and do it regardless of how I felt about it. I do really feel like it's beneficial for the both of us to keep connected with all the people we are constantly leaving behind. He can make his facebook as private and exclusive as he wants, and he has. :

What do you mean by keeping important information from my husband?

I understand the desire to stay connected to family, that is one of the reasons I suppose that FB is popular.

I see where you're coming from. I'm not one to believe in US government conspiracy theories, so I don't really take any of that stuff seriously enough to feel as though it is worth passing on the info to anyone else. If I thought it was something serious and real, I would definitely talk to him about it.

(July 9, 2015 at 1:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I have a genuine question. How come Mormon people are usually so good looking? Lol. Every Mormon I've met just seem to have this aura around them...

Because you are employing confirmation bias when you assess them?  You only remember the Mormons who are good-looking and "glowing."

I live next to Mormons - they don't glow with any kind of aura.  In fact, they're rather plain, hum-drum people.  They're nice (The parents are, anyway, the kids are little assholes), but there's nothing special about them.

My best friend has an aunt and uncle (as associated rugrats) who are majorly Mormon and she (the aunt) is a true and genuine asshole of the first degree.  She approached my best friend's mother and told her that she was raising my best friend and her brother wrong because they weren't being raised Mormon, among other socially inept confrontations.

I've been to Salt Lake City and the people there are average-looking, and nobody is glowing.  My best friend lived there for two years while she did her Masters program and came away with the sense that Mormons are exclusionary elitists who look down on, or treat differently, anyone who is not Mormon.

Mormons put on a face for the world, trying to convey how happy and wonderful and perfect their lives are because they have the One True Church® when they experience happiness and suffering and health and illness and all the rest as exactly the same rates as everyone else - though there are some studies that show that Mormon women, especially, tend to suffer from depression more, and that Mormon abuse prescription medication at higher rates than the general population.

So, yeah.  Confirmation bias probably explains your experience.

(July 9, 2015 at 2:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(July 9, 2015 at 2:18 pm)whateverist Wrote: Oh now you have me curious.  Do you think I could get a peek at your FB page?

Are you talking to me, or Clueless Morgan?

(July 9, 2015 at 7:42 pm)whateverist Wrote: I meant you, Cath-y.

I'm hurt, Whatevs.

(July 10, 2015 at 10:22 am)Clueless Morgan Wrote:

(July 9, 2015 at 1:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I have a genuine question. How come Mormon people are usually so good looking? Lol. Every Mormon I've met just seem to have this aura around them...

Because you are employing confirmation bias when you assess them?  You only remember the Mormons who are good-looking and "glowing."

I live next to Mormons - they don't glow with any kind of aura.  In fact, they're rather plain, hum-drum people.  They're nice (The parents are, anyway, the kids are little assholes), but there's nothing special about them.

My best friend has an aunt and uncle (as associated rugrats) who are majorly Mormon and she (the aunt) is a true and genuine asshole of the first degree.  She approached my best friend's mother and told her that she was raising my best friend and her brother wrong because they weren't being raised Mormon, among other socially inept confrontations.

I've been to Salt Lake City and the people there are average-looking, and nobody is glowing.  My best friend lived there for two years while she did her Masters program and came away with the sense that Mormons are exclusionary elitists who look down on, or treat differently, anyone who is not Mormon.

Mormons put on a face for the world, trying to convey how happy and wonderful and perfect their lives are because they have the One True Church® when they experience happiness and suffering and health and illness and all the rest as exactly the same rates as everyone else - though there are some studies that show that Mormon women, especially, tend to suffer from depression more, and that Mormon abuse prescription medication at higher rates than the general population.

So, yeah.  Confirmation bias probably explains your experience.

Hm? I have no reason to be biased towards Mormons lol. I'm not a Mormon. If I was just biased towards Christians in general I would be saying most Christians tend to be good looking.

I had met very few Mormons up until my husband joined the Air Force 2 years ago, and it's not like I realize someone is Mormon when I first meet them. I meet them, form an opinion on them, and then learn they are Mormons.

Thanks for the response!

(July 10, 2015 at 10:55 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Hm? I have no reason to be biased towards Mormons lol. I'm not a Mormon. If I was just biased towards Christians in general I would be saying most Christians tend to be good looking.

Hence the inclusion of the paragraph about Mormons putting on a face for non-Mormons. They are encouraged to make it look like they're all happy and sunny and without a care in the world because they represent their religion and their religion is perfect and wonderful and loving and happy and "the right one, didn't you know?"

(July 10, 2015 at 10:22 am)Clueless Morgan Wrote:

(July 9, 2015 at 2:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Are you talking to me, or Clueless Morgan?

(July 9, 2015 at 7:42 pm)whateverist Wrote: I meant you, Cath-y.

I'm hurt, Whatevs.

Well I'll just have to pm you and see if you won't take me in.

(July 10, 2015 at 1:52 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote:

(July 10, 2015 at 10:55 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Hm? I have no reason to be biased towards Mormons lol. I'm not a Mormon. If I was just biased towards Christians in general I would be saying most Christians tend to be good looking.

Hence the inclusion of the paragraph about Mormons putting on a face for non-Mormons.  They are encouraged to make it look like they're all happy and sunny and without a care in the world because they represent their religion and their religion is perfect and wonderful and loving and happy and "the right one, didn't you know?"

Thanks for the insight.

(July 10, 2015 at 2:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(July 10, 2015 at 1:52 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: Hence the inclusion of the paragraph about Mormons putting on a face for non-Mormons.  They are encouraged to make it look like they're all happy and sunny and without a care in the world because they represent their religion and their religion is perfect and wonderful and loving and happy and "the right one, didn't you know?"

Thanks for the insight.

Confirmation bias also isn't just about being biased toward one particular group or other, either. It may be the case that you have met some very attractive people and only happen to remember that they're Mormon because you somehow or other found out they were Mormon when the case may be, in fact, that of the non-Mormon people you find equally as attractive you just never found out their religious group. It may be that you know more very attractive Lutherans than very attractive Mormons, they just never told you they were Lutheran so you couldn't categorize them they way you have done with the attractive Mormons you have met.

Or of the very attractive people you see every day that you have no interaction with other than seeing them across the apple bin at the grocery store, they, on the whole, tend to be non-denominational Christians and you never have a chance to find that out.

Or it may be that you just happen to have met Mormons who happen to fit into your personal idea of what "very attractive" means and that you just haven't met enough Mormons to realize they're as average looking as any other denomination. (not putting down average looking people, there is very good reason to think that average looks are the most attractive to the majority of people and the further a persons appearance deviates from the average the fewer people would find them attractive.)

(July 10, 2015 at 1:53 pm)whateverist Wrote:

(July 10, 2015 at 10:22 am)Clueless Morgan Wrote: I'm hurt, Whatevs.

Well I'll just have to pm you and see if you won't take me in.

Sure, now you come asking...

I'll have to add you when I'm on my computer, my iPad is old and busted and Facebook barely works on it.

(July 10, 2015 at 3:26 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote:

(July 10, 2015 at 1:53 pm)whateverist Wrote: Well I'll just have to pm you and see if you won't take me in.

Sure, now you come asking...

I'll have to add you when I'm on my computer, my iPad is old and busted and Facebook barely works on it.

Whaaat?
I thought iPads just worked!

(July 10, 2015 at 3:25 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote:

(July 10, 2015 at 2:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Thanks for the insight.

Confirmation bias also isn't just about being biased toward one particular group or other, either.  It may be the case that you have met some very attractive people and only happen to remember that they're Mormon because you somehow or other found out they were Mormon when the case may be, in fact, that of the non-Mormon people you find equally as attractive you just never found out their religious group. It may be that you know more very attractive Lutherans than very attractive Mormons, they just never told you they were Lutheran so you couldn't categorize them they way you have done with the attractive Mormons you have met.

Or of the very attractive people you see every day that you have no interaction with other than seeing them across the apple bin at the grocery store, they, on the whole, tend to be non-denominational Christians and you never have a chance to find that out.

Or it may be that you just happen to have met Mormons who happen to fit into your personal idea of what "very attractive" means and that you just haven't met enough Mormons to realize they're as average looking as any other denomination.  (not putting down average looking people, there is very good reason to think that average looks are the most attractive to the majority of people and the further a persons appearance deviates from the average the fewer people would find them attractive.)

Hadn't thought about it that way. Good points.