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Atheists come up with ideal god
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Maybe that's why Randy loved the copypasta so much. No need to worry about spelling.
It also didn't help that his opinions come from a book. Only a thinking person can summon up their own.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.  (October 8, 2015 at 8:28 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: Just for fun, I would like to see what kind of god atheists would see fit to worship or accept. Here is a idea how about no god at all.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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Copenhagen School  Religious Views: Its all bullshit to keep you handing money to the usher. (October 8, 2015 at 11:45 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:Speak for your society, mine hasn't executed a murderer in many years. Do try to be mindful that many of us are not American and that America is the only western nation with the death penalty.(October 8, 2015 at 11:37 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: According you your buy-bull, there's nothing at all wrong with genocide.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.  (October 11, 2015 at 12:05 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 11:45 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: there are multiple verses saying not to kill. you're questioning why God commanded the Israelites to slay the Canaanites, and the answer is that God said the sins of the Canaanites reached such a level that they deserved to die. Just like how we execute murders in our society, God exercised His justice.Speak for your society, mine hasn't executed a murderer in many years. Do try to be mindful that many of us are not American and that America is the only western nation with the death penalty. LV - I think you make an excellent point, here; America's love of vengeance is what largely drives the popular support enjoyed by both the Prison-Industrial Complex and the execution of our prisoners (often in ways that have nothing to do with the Death Penalty).
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
Lemonvariable72
Copenhagen School Religious Views: Its all bullshit to keep you handing money to the usher. (October 11, 2015 at 2:06 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(October 11, 2015 at 12:05 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Speak for your society, mine hasn't executed a murderer in many years. Do try to be mindful that many of us are not American and that America is the only western nation with the death penalty. Agreed, america is getting ficked by industrial complexes. Prison should not be about punishment, but taking criminals and making them into functioning members of society.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. (October 11, 2015 at 4:21 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:(October 11, 2015 at 2:06 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: LV - I think you make an excellent point, here; America's love of vengeance is what largely drives the popular support enjoyed by both the Prison-Industrial Complex and the execution of our prisoners (often in ways that have nothing to do with the Death Penalty). I left out something very important from my point, above. I meant to say that our love of vengeance, which has its roots in our odd brand of evangelical, "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" fire-and-brimstone, god as the great Watcher and Punisher, mentality, is what drives our PIC and Death Penalty addictions. Just think in your head for a few moments the total number of TV shows just about discovering-and-punishing crime we have, every single day!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love. 
I didn't grow up in a culture that believes the populous should worship any individuals, or group of individuals. The people who run my country are supposed to be public servants who work for us, in exchange for taxation, whether they actually do or not. one of the founding principles of the US being "no taxation without representation", after all. So I'm not eager to worhip anyone, but if I'm going to dedicate my life to someone, he'd better make it worth my while.
A god worth following is someone who always gives his/her followers everything they need. Some christians like to claim that's what their god does, yet children die while their parents pray for magical healing, and life is as hard for a christian in a muslim dominant country as a muslim's life would be in a christian dominated country. A god worth following is someone who shows him/herself in a way that does not leave people debating the existence of gods thousands of years after this god starts divinely inspiring people. A god worth worshiping would never demand worship, or say that questioning him/her is one of the biggest crimes you could commit. A god I want to worship is the kind of person I try to be. I don't always come out on top when I try to be generous and kind, and I try to rein in my anger when someone wrongs me, but my anger is more justfied than any god's because I've actually lost something substantial by being too kind. What's his excuse?
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html  (October 8, 2015 at 8:28 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: Just for fun, I would like to see what kind of god atheists would see fit to worship or accept. So, we'll assume I'm starting with the world we have, and working backward from there. I don't want a god that causes childhood illnesses like Tay Sachs, and I don't really want one that "allows" it for "mysterious reasons". No "fallen world" bullshit, either, because that's just kicking the "mysterious ways" can back a step. I like the idea of a heaven (or something similar), despite the concept of living for forever being kind of weird. Hell is just fucking terrible, and even less excusable than any of the explanations for stuff like Tay Sachs. I don't specifically care if this god made the universe or not, but if it has that kind of power, we're going to run into annoying Tay Sachs problems again. So, it's probably best if he has no power in this universe. Conclusion: this "god" would basically have to exist in some dimension outside of our universe (we'll call this place "Heaven"). God cannot affect our universe, so he can't cause or prevent problems. Still, he feels sorry for us and would like us to have a better existence. He does have the power to attach "souls" to us, so when we die, we can go to Heaven, which is much better than Earth. And even that is a pretty stupid concept of a god. I certainly wouldn't want to "worship" it, but at least I could accept it on moral grounds.  RE: Atheists come up with ideal god
October 12, 2015 at 9:05 am
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It seems there are many theists with the type of personality that is willing (perhaps even eager) to worship and submit to the biggest thing available. So much so that some can't seem to grasp the concept of believing in a god but not worshipping it.
On the whole, most atheists I've met seem to find the very idea of worship to be bizarre, and so the existence or not of the God in question is moot anyway. Is there something to this, I wonder? Could it be studied somehow? Feel free to send me a private message.
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