Posts: 29626
Threads: 116
Joined: February 22, 2011
Reputation:
159
RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 23, 2023 at 9:27 am
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2023 at 9:30 am by Angrboda.)
(July 23, 2023 at 9:24 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Angrboda, nope. I have answered yours and others questions multiple times, including on that Principle of Contingent Causation thread you mentioned, that I started, that has some 365 replies, and 4500 views, where I've answered each question addressed to me and will continue to in due time.
Now you're just lying. You asked me how adding numbers an infinite times solves the problem, I responded, and rather than either acknowledging or objecting, you start another thread.
Posts: 6112
Threads: 53
Joined: September 25, 2018
Reputation:
20
RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 23, 2023 at 9:28 am
Hey bozo, just because your silly ass replies to someone, does not mean you answered them. You consistently avoid, or ignore any question your little book of lies is not equipped to handle.
Posts: 444
Threads: 30
Joined: June 12, 2023
Reputation:
1
RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 23, 2023 at 9:34 am
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2023 at 9:34 am by Nishant Xavier.)
Of course I answered on "adding an infinite number of times". I said: "Successively adding what an infinite number of times? That sounds like begging the question. You need to prove this premise: "By successive addition, I can get to an Actual Infinite". Your response is: "If I successively add an infinite number of times, I can".
It does not prove the point. When you successively add numbers 1,2,3 on the paper, why don't you get to an Actual Infinite? According to you, "If I successively add an infinite number of times, I can". So do that, and then I'll concede the argument."
That I started a thread on Isaiah 53, which has nothing to do with the Argument from Contingency, does not mean I will not answer further on Contingency in time. I could say exactly the same to you, Angrboda: You do Atheism no favors when you make such empty false accusations. Do you condemn the persecution of 360 MN Christians, including Christians in Africa, North Korea and China? As I said, a polite debate and a matter of life and death are two very different things. For those 100s of Millions of Christians, this is a matter of life and death.
Posts: 29626
Threads: 116
Joined: February 22, 2011
Reputation:
159
RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 23, 2023 at 9:51 am
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2023 at 10:01 am by Angrboda.)
(July 23, 2023 at 9:34 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Of course I answered on "adding an infinite number of times". I said: "Successively adding what an infinite number of times? That sounds like begging the question. You need to prove this premise: "By successive addition, I can get to an Actual Infinite". Your response is: "If I successively add an infinite number of times, I can".
It does not prove the point. When you successively add numbers 1,2,3 on the paper, why don't you get to an Actual Infinite? According to you, "If I successively add an infinite number of times, I can". So do that, and then I'll concede the argument."
That would be all well and good if you had said that in that thread. Instead, you just ignored my response. Ignoring a reply isn't answering that reply so you as stated are being dishonest in pretending you did not choose to evade a difficulty.
(July 23, 2023 at 9:34 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: That I started a thread on Isaiah 53, which has nothing to do with the Argument from Contingency, does not mean I will not answer further on Contingency in time. I could say exactly the same to you, Angrboda: You do Atheism no favors when you make such empty false accusations. Do you condemn the persecution of 360 MN Christians, including Christians in Africa, North Korea and China? As I said, a polite debate and a matter of life and death are two very different things. For those 100s of Millions of Christians, this is a matter of life and death.
And I note that you have yet to answer Bucky's objection to your obvious lie there. You claimed that Isaiah was a "clear" prophecy. Now Isaiah may or may not be prophecy, but the existence of referents to things other than Jesus shows that it is anything but clear. You're just another liar for Jesus.
And it may be true that I never responded to a question of yours, but I have not claimed that I would or have responded to every question, and so it is not a question of my uttering a falsehood. This is nothing but a red herring introduced to distract from the main point.
Posts: 8230
Threads: 40
Joined: March 18, 2014
Reputation:
54
RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 23, 2023 at 12:54 pm
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2023 at 12:55 pm by Ravenshire.)
(July 23, 2023 at 9:24 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: As for me, I have not visited Africa.
So, you would demand from others that which you will not do. It's good that you do follow your gawd in at least that one respect.
Thief and assassin for hire. Member in good standing of the Rogues Guild.
Posts: 46087
Threads: 538
Joined: July 24, 2013
Reputation:
109
RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 23, 2023 at 1:57 pm
@ Nishant Xavier
Quote:Yes, agreed, though, Brian, that numbers by themselves don't establish Truth. What would establish Truth is if it can be shown that there were Divine Miracles as the most likely explanation driving that growth. That is, that the effect of observed growth came from a Divine, not Naturalistic, Cause.
Oh, do me a lemon. You say that numbers don't establish Truth and then say that the only way Christianity could reach the numbers it has is through divine miracles. I can't decide if you're a steaming great hypocrite or you're just too stupid to keep your arguments straight.
Could be both, I suppose...
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Posts: 67189
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 23, 2023 at 11:45 pm
China takes the position it does on christianity because it sees a foreign revolutionary threat in it's missionarries...and it sees that, because that's exactly how christian missionaries are operating. What china wants, and they'll prattle on about this at length, is a chinese christianity.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 11047
Threads: 29
Joined: December 8, 2019
Reputation:
14
RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 23, 2023 at 11:58 pm
Quote:Yes, agreed, though, Brian, that numbers by themselves don't establish Truth. What would establish Truth is if it can be shown that there were Divine Miracles as the most likely explanation driving that growth. That is, that the effect of observed growth came from a Divine, not Naturalistic, Cause.
Good luck showing that
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
Posts: 444
Threads: 30
Joined: June 12, 2023
Reputation:
1
RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 24, 2023 at 12:01 am
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2023 at 12:03 am by Nishant Xavier.)
Chinese Christianity is legitimate, and yes Chinese Christians do express their Christian Faith in many ways unique to their own ethnic and national identity, which is perfectly legitimate. However, the Commie CCP, the Radical Islamist Faction in North Africa, the Hindutva Militants in India, or any other sect, has no right to persecute Christians. They do it only because they're afraid of intellectual debate and know that in a fair debate, Christianity will easily win; whether over Communism, Islamism, Polytheism or Atheism. It's the purpose of Christian Philosophy to show these competing opinions to be clearly off base, and that is something the Church Fathers did with the Jews and Pagans, then later Doctors like St. John Damascene and then St. Thomas Aquinas did with the claims of Mohammed/Islam, and now Atheism is being addressed by Christian Scholars like Dr. Craig, Dr. Habermas. We will see who wins. If it's a fair fight, my prediction is Christianity will win and win easily. Christianity easily answered Jewish objections on Isaiah 53, for e.g. and that's why so many became Christian.
Posts: 11047
Threads: 29
Joined: December 8, 2019
Reputation:
14
RE: Christianity in Africa stats: <10 MN in 1900, 700 MN today.
July 24, 2023 at 12:09 am
All the above is rubbish Christianity doesn't answer or address anything it simply lies and twists the truth to suit its agenda. There is no Christian Philosophy just Christian sophistry
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
|