How Great Thou Aren't

[Minimalist]

G-C, if "ignorance is bliss" you must be the happiest fucking lunatic in the world.

[houseofcantor]

I almost wuz mad for a minute, but I'm the happiest psychotic in the world. Gotta love that DSM IV.

[Godscreated]

@ Shell B

Yes we take Bibles into every area, just as you would preach there is no God to everyone you can. The Southern Baptist Association works hard across the world to help those in need. We raise the money to take aid to all that we can, we realize that giving help to others is the most important thing we can do, this example comes from Christ's teachings and his actions and we do our best to follow this. We do not go into areas to be crutches, we help people to learn, teaching them to become dependent with the things they do have. We help to build schools and hospitals and give them the books, including the Bible, to help them educate themselves. We take medicines into areas and without government help. Some of our missionaries must raise their own support through local churches, they put themselves through school learning all they can of the new culture they will enter and the language of the peoples they will help. A great deal of our missionaries live near poverty to help others, they not only give of what they have they give of who they are, loving, caring people that sacrificing their lives to improve the lives of others. Yes we believe that God in their lives will be of a great help to them and why because we seen who lives are better when God is in a persons life. Frankly I do not care what you want to believe about christians who do good for others or how we accomplish this work, as far as I'm concerned it's none of your business and our success rate is very good in what we do and those we help give thanks to God and the people he sent to help them. No I've never been on a mission trip outside this country not that I haven't tried but things did not work out for that to happen. I do how ever give of myself here to help those in need and because of it I have many new friends, I could not ask for a greater gift. You should look into what the Southern Baptist do abroad and at home without government assistance. Yea I'm one of those southern boys who has many guns and I have many friends who do, none of use that are christians advocate giving guns to other countries, like I said that responsibility falls to the nonbelievers and Yankees are just as responsible as anyone else. No one in the Baptist church is going to say that everything we do is perfect, we know better and that is better than the non believing community can say, so instead of spouting your sarcastic gibberish you should take time to look into the real world of the Baptist church. You want to know where the real church is study the Baptist mission work and you will see where and what part of the real church is doing. It is a sad thing when people like you criticize the work the church does to help others throughout this world, you need to get over your hatred and be thankful for what we do that is good, if for no other reason than the smiling faces throughout the world because of our contributions to people in need.

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G-C, if "ignorance is bliss" you must be the happiest fucking lunatic in the world.

Some times ignorance is bliss Min, that's why I ignore you.

[Shell B]

@ Shell B
Yes we take Bibles into every area, just as you would preach there is no God to everyone you can.

Assumptive much? I would do no such fucking thing. I have never once even mentioned god whilst volunteering and I have done a great deal of volunteering. I'm usually too busy actually doing things to stop and talk about fairy tales.

The Southern Baptist Association works hard across the world to help those in need. We raise the money to take aid to all that we can, we realize that giving help to others is the most important thing we can do, this example comes from Christ's teachings and his actions and we do our best to follow this.

Vague again.

We do not go into areas to be crutches,

I would hope not. Cooked fettucine would make a better pair of crutches.

We help to build schools and hospitals and give them the books, including the Bible, to help them educate themselves. We take medicines into areas and without government help.

Where and when? Specifically.

Some of our missionaries must raise their own support through local churches, they put themselves through school learning all they can of the new culture they will enter and the language of the peoples they will help. A great deal of our missionaries live near poverty to help others, they not only give of what they have they give of who they are, loving, caring people that sacrificing their lives to improve the lives of others.

I thought you were talking about missionaries. Thank you for proving my point.

Yes we believe that God in their lives will be of a great help to them and why because we seen who lives are better when God is in a persons life.

Oh, yes, it makes their lives much better. http://voices.yahoo.com/accusations-witc...tml?cat=34

Frankly I do not care what you want to believe about christians who do good for others or how we accomplish this work, as far as I'm concerned it's none of your business

Suck a fart.

and our success rate is very good

See above.

No I've never been on a mission trip outside this country not that I haven't tried but things did not work out for that to happen.

Yeah, it is so hard to leave. Too bad plenty of atheists manage. You better hop to it. You wouldn't want to have to make up more lies about atheists to soothe your guilty conscience.

I do how ever give of myself here to help those in need and because of it I have many new friends, I could not ask for a greater gift.

What specifically have you done, you dodgy little fibber?

Yea I'm one of those southern boys who has many guns and I have many friends who do

And you just said that atheists are responsible for the guns. Could you be any more juvenile?

none of use that are christians advocate giving guns to other countries, like I said that responsibility falls to the nonbelievers

You are fucking retarded. You have to back up your stupid claims with reality. Atheists in the U.S. do not supply guns to foreign countries. Read something, for pity's sake.

Yankees are just as responsible as anyone else.

Oh my goodness. You really just said Yankees in reference to northerners.

we know better and that is better than the non believing community can say

Ignorance is not bliss, GC. It is just ignorance. It means you have no fucking clue about the world outside of your bubble. You are, hands down, one of the most deluded and ignorant Christians to whom I have ever spoken. "Yankee" Christians would be embarrassed by you.

so instead of spouting your sarcastic gibberish

They're called words, not gibberish. I don't understand most algebra. That doesn't mean it does not make sense.

You want to know where the real church is study the Baptist mission work and you will see where and what part of the real church is doing.

Nope. You do not even understand how fucking stupid you sound. The "real" church? Bitch, you and billions of other people feel the same way. Nothing makes you special except your I.Q.

you need to get over your hatred and be thankful for what we do that is good, if for no other reason than the smiling faces throughout the world because of our contributions to people in need.

I don't hate anyone, but, given the right circumstances, you could be the exception. I am thankful for good things that anyone does. I am not thankful for douchebags introducing Christianity into tribal or Muslim areas and then leaving them to sort out the chaotic aftermath the moment they start killing each other in the name of your god. Take responsibility for all of it, if you want responsibility for any of it. I say that with the utmost derision and contempt.

Could one of our computer savvy users design a translator that translates basic high school level English to stupid hick so this fuck can understand what I am saying?

Disclaimer: All of my insults form the base of my argument. You can't fight stupid by ignoring it.

[ElDinero]

You guys got a list of the decent Christians on this site, or am I gonna hafta check 'em off one at a time?

Yeah, it's right here:








[someone will probably say tack and fr0d0 in this spot, whereas I will tell you that both are fucking idiots and one of them is knowingly dishonest every single time he engages]

I hope this has answered your query.

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Can I just take this opportunity also to express my amazed surprise that a Christian points to questionably motivated charity work as a reason why their cult is a positive thing. What a fresh take on matters!

Cunts.

[Jackalope]

Yes we take Bibles into every area, just as you would preach there is no God to everyone you can.

That's the difference between us and you, G-C. Secular organizations don't hand out copies of "The God Delusion" to those they're assisting. There's no preaching, no sermon, no hard sell.

Here's something for you to consider. A local faith-based soup kitchen for the homeless puts a price on charity. No sermon == no soup. No secular organization that I'm aware of makes charity conditional on hearing their message - no doubt in large part because the message is "help the needy", and actions speak louder than words, or sermons.

[The Grand Nudger]

Strange that every rag tag bunch of yokels in these shit holes like to call themselves God's This-or-That. God is always on their side (and he hates those other subhuman pieces of shit). If missionarries would hand out aide and keep their mouths shut about the fairy tale they'd be doing a hell of a lot more good. No, they'd rather spread and reinforce one of the strongest arguments for ethnic superiority ever devised, the argument from divine mandate. Charity with conditions is a business transaction, not charity. Good people who leave their sweat on the ground in service of faith based charities could accomplish more with less baggage in any secular charity. I'd encourage any missionary to do so, because that person is worthwhile while their church and faith remain worthless.

[houseofcantor]

Yeah, it's right here:

Thanks! I wuz worried there might be a multitude here, and them Christians...

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Strange that every rag tag bunch of yokels in these shit holes like to call themselves God's This-or-That. God is always on their side (and he hates those other subhuman pieces of shit).

Pattern reinforcement. I talk some whack shit? But it is all mathematical conception in this unit.

Belief in god is acceptance of god. Hypothesis. Faith in god is sharing the identity of god. Reality. A verb such as believe is an investment of our energy - like joules to wire up a couple neurons to remember for the length of the momentary interest. A noun such as faith is an investment of identity - like steady flow of kilowatt. And we have dual state identity - like this one keeping to the topic with a burst of joule transferred to black letters on white; while John must maintain the parameters of John.

Reinforcement and degradation of pattern; what we are, what we do.

[Godscreated]

@ Shell B
Yes we take Bibles into every area, just as you would preach there is no God to everyone you can.

Assumptive much? I would do no such fucking thing. I have never once even mentioned god whilst volunteering and I have done a great deal of volunteering. I'm usually too busy actually doing things to stop and talk about fairy tales.

Vague and irresponsible because you replied the same as you accuse me of doing.

The Southern Baptist Association works hard across the world to help those in need. We raise the money to take aid to all that we can, we realize that giving help to others is the most important thing we can do, this example comes from Christ's teachings and his actions and we do our best to follow this.

Vague again.

That's because you do not care to find nor see the truth about what the SBA does. Let's make this easy for you go to the local SBA building in your area and request the missions works and you will receive plenty to read.

We do not go into areas to be crutches,

I would hope not. Cooked fettucine would make a better pair of crutches.

Right, thanks for confirming my point we are not crutches.

We help to build schools and hospitals and give them the books, including the Bible, to help them educate themselves. We take medicines into areas and without government help.

Where and when? Specifically.

Haiti, is just one example, this to is where I wanted to go on a mission trip to help children with AIDS.

Some of our missionaries must raise their own support through local churches, they put themselves through school learning all they can of the new culture they will enter and the language of the peoples they will help. A great deal of our missionaries live near poverty to help others, they not only give of what they have, they give of who they are, loving, caring people that sacrificing their lives to improve the lives of others.

I thought you were talking about missionaries. Thank you for proving my point.

What ridiculous gibberish is this, blind you must be if you can not see a description of christian missionaries.

Yes we believe that God in their lives will be of a great help to them and why because we seen who lives are better when God is in a persons life.

Oh, yes, it makes their lives much better. http://voices.yahoo.com/accusations-witc...tml?cat=34

People misuse teachings in many ways, from many different sources, people must learn that they are responsible for their own actions, these people are taught that they should never intertwine their old religion with christian teachings. You have stated that you have never read the Bible so I do not expect you to know this, when Paul was setting up churches in Corinth, Galatia and other places after he would move own there were those who wanted to make the church work the way they wanted so they could control the people, Paul revisited and wrote these churches about these wolves and ask the church to get rid of them, he would go into great detail about what was going wrong with the church and how it was not being the christian church God desired it to be. If you want to confirm what I'm stating then read about the two churches I mentioned by name, the books have the same names as I mentioned above. This is one of the reasons we teach the people to read where ever we go so that they can understand what God wants of them and not follow those who would deceive and control them for their own evil desires.

Frankly I do not care what you want to believe about christians who do good for others or how we accomplish this work, as far as I'm concerned it's none of your business

Suck a fart.

Sticks and stones, you are such a child, grow up.

and our success rate is very good

See above.

See above.

No I've never been on a mission trip outside this country not that I haven't tried but things did not work out for that to happen.

Yeah, it is so hard to leave. Too bad plenty of atheists manage. You better hop to it. You wouldn't want to have to make up more lies about atheists to soothe your guilty conscience.

Was not the leaving, things came about that stopped the trip, after that God had me doing other things. No guilty conscience, I was very disappointed and maybe one day it will be possible to go.

I do how ever give of myself here to help those in need and because of it I have many new friends, I could not ask for a greater gift.

What specifically have you done, you dodgy little fibber?

I've given time to help the youth of my church, paid for most of their activities because the church would not always help them. Worked with them outside of church functions to help them with problems in their lives. Setup all night on the phone with some trying to help them with problems, even though I had a tournament to fish the next day. Gave money to a single mother because she could not afford to buy a few Christmas presents for her two boys, told her that others in the church gave her the money that I was just delivering the money. Could not count how many times I've repaired heating and air conditioning units for those who could not afford to get them fixed, got a lot of good food for that, great cooks in my church. Many other things that would not be important to nonbelievers, to christians they meant a great deal. Could not count how many times I've been thanked for giving of my time to help others inside and outside the church. Took a young man to the hospital a couple of times even though I knew he was using the church for his own benefit. The toughest thing I did was sell my bass boat and give up tournament fishing to be able to work wit the kids at church, I real loved to fish, the kids however were much more important. Now I guess this is where you will take advantage of the info you asked for and tell me I bragging or that doesn't sound like much, if you find that a need, have your fun.

Yea I'm one of those southern boys who has many guns and I have many friends who do

And you just said that atheists are responsible for the guns. Could you be any more juvenile?

Know you are being stupid in your response, grow up, I never said atheist I said nonbelievers. Christians be they Southern or Yankees would not be gun runners. Do you really think because people like to shoot and hunt they want to make war, if you do you certainly need a reality check.

none of use that are christians advocate giving guns to other countries, like I said that responsibility falls to the nonbelievers

You are fucking retarded. You have to back up your stupid claims with reality. Atheists in the U.S. do not supply guns to foreign countries. Read something, for pity's sake.

As far as I know there are no stats on what atheist do, I do know this that the christians I know would not give or condone the giving of guns to other nations, in my personal opinion the non believing gunrunners and those in our government that do this are totally irresponsible.

Yankees are just as responsible as anyone else.

Oh my goodness. You really just said Yankees in reference to northerners.

You bet honey, actually since you did not get it let me make it clear, that was mostly pointed at you. Yankees was also in response to your "southern boys" sarcastic wording.

we know better and that is better than the non believing community can say

Ignorance is not bliss, GC. It is just ignorance. It means you have no fucking clue about the world outside of your bubble. You are, hands down, one of the most deluded and ignorant Christians to whom I have ever spoken. "Yankee" Christians would be embarrassed by you.

There are no Yankee christians, we are of the same family no matter where we live. It is you who is showing ignorance, you have no idea what I know about the world and what goes on in it, I look at the world as it really is and what I see even if I was not a christian is horrible, I take a look at the world through a christian view and a secular view. The reason for the secular view, I lived it for a long time, the two different lives I've live gives me IMO a better view of the world.

so instead of spouting your sarcastic gibberish

They're called words, not gibberish. I don't understand most algebra. That doesn't mean it does not make sense.

When your words become unreasonable and sarcastic by giving no thought to what you say, it's gibberish.

You want to know where the real church is study the Baptist mission work and you will see where and what part of the real church is doing.

Nope. You do not even understand how fucking stupid you sound. The "real" church? Bitch, you and billions of other people feel the same way. Nothing makes you special except your I.Q.

If you will not research then it is you who do not care to understand, all you care about is running down anyone and anything that you disagree with. Just so you know I do not believe you are very smart either.

you need to get over your hatred and be thankful for what we do that is good, if for no other reason than the smiling faces throughout the world because of our contributions to people in need.

I don't hate anyone, but, given the right circumstances, you could be the exception. I am thankful for good things that anyone does. I am not thankful for douchebags introducing Christianity into tribal or Muslim areas and then leaving them to sort out the chaotic aftermath the moment they start killing each other in the name of your god. Take responsibility for all of it, if you want responsibility for any of it. I say that with the utmost derision and contempt.

Your language does not support that statement, actually if we were to meet and have a discussion on whatever I do not believe you would make that an exception, but what do I know you are you and will do whatever your heart desires. As I stated above we teach responsibly and can not be held accountable for all the ill actions of others. In some cases it may be justified but that would be few.

Could one of our computer savvy users design a translator that translates basic high school level English to stupid hick so this fuck can understand what I am saying?

Disclaimer: All of my insults form the base of my argument. You can't fight stupid by ignoring it.

I understand what you have to say even though most of it is gibberish, you should be thankful for hicks like me, we can look into your gibberish and see who you truly are.

[Jackalope]

@Godschild

Serious question for you - would you consider your church's charity work to be a success if you left the bibles and preaching at home and focused on the non-theological work?