Conspiracy Theories

[Pippy]

Because it breaks the rules written formerly in the Constitution.

One of the rules was that the American people (the states individually) minted their own gold and solver monies. The Founding Fathers were smart enough to know that the biggest single part of being a sovereign not under the thumb they just crawled out from under was to control their own money. But when the Federal Reserve Act was passed, it made a private central bank owned by the same financiers that live on Thread Needle Street in London.

So the Amendment being unconstitutional has to do with it's breaking of fundamental rules in the same constitution. The personal income tax was a couple steps further of making permanent a temporary war tax on earnings above spendings. Taxing spending is fine (say the american tax revolters) but taxing income and spending is too much. I take more of a moral stance. If the Americans (or Canadians) would spend their money on things other than imperialism and war, subsidies on things that are detrimental to health and quality of life, Depleted Uranium and other horrible weapons, I would happily pay taxes. Happily. But the governments spend the money I give them in a very amoral way, so I have an obligation to not give them my money. If they threaten to put me in jail, I will laugh, because spending money to imprison me still does not make me pay taxes. So for some it is in the letter of the law, and for myself it is more of a moral call I had to make.

I have to keep telling that the "conspiracy theorist" label is like "anti-semite", it makes no sense and shows how much people are thinking what they are told to think.

[Rhizomorph13]

Pippy,

Because it breaks the rules written formerly in the Constitution.

Hence the need for an ammendment. If it was in line with what was already written then there would be no need to ammend what was already written.

Rhizo

[Meatball]

One might argue that the amendment contradicts the intentions and spirit of the founding fathers (and I'd agree with you), but it's constitutional by definition, there's no argument there.

I like to imagine a USA where the Federal government remained restricted and acted more as a unifying body for states than anything else, like the EU or something. It would definitely be a different world, and there would probably be a Confederate States of America instead of a Civil War.

[Tiberius]

One might argue that the amendment contradicts the intentions and spirit of the founding fathers (and I'd agree with you), but it's constitutional by definition, there's no argument there.

I like to imagine a USA where the Federal government remained restricted and acted more as a unifying body for states than anything else, like the EU or something. It would definitely be a different world, and there would probably be a Confederate States of America instead of a Civil War.

I thought some of the first amendments were supported by the founding fathers???

[Rhizomorph13]

We call them the bill of rights, the first ten ammendments:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Stat..._of_Rights

There are so many to choose from but my favorite is the fifth.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

One might argue that the amendment contradicts the intentions and spirit of the founding fathers (and I'd agree with you), but it's constitutional by definition, there's no argument there.

I've never understood the argument "The intentions of the founding fathers"


The people who draft Constitutions for democratic style governments are merely setting down the initial guidelines for governance.They need to be ratified by the governed. The intentions of the drafters are irrelevant,only the effects matter. Once ratified, the guidelines can be changed or abolished at any time by the governed.

Constitutions are living documents ,not unchanging dogma. The drafters of the US constitution were acutely aware of that simple fact, hence the provision for amendments.

I try not to argue with Pippy as he seems not yet to have mastered critical thinking,so it's unfair.

[Pippy]

Durrrrrrrr Don't let it drooooool on you durrrrrrrrr

I like ponies

[tackattack]

I like that padriac I think I'll use that in my next bible arguement. "The Bible is a living document, not unchanging dogma"

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

I like that padriac I think I'll use that in my next bible arguement. "The Bible is a living document, not unchanging dogma"

You do and you'll become an automatic heretic. There's hope for you yet.

[tackattack]

heretic how? We say the Bible is the libing word of God on a weekly basis in our church.