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Conspiracy Theories
#61
RE: Conspiracy Theories
It's all to be taken as lessons about God and his nature.. none of it has to be taken literally.
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#62
RE: Conspiracy Theories
(February 12, 2010 at 7:40 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: It's all to be taken as lessons about God and his nature.. none of it has to be taken literally.

Do you believe Jesus was a metaphor?
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#63
RE: Conspiracy Theories
LOL no I don't haha Smile

Jesus is about humans connecting with God. You can get wrapped up in trying to find out if the actual person existed or then performed miracles amid a society where miracle workers were commonplace completely un-evidenced or verifiable even at the time... but that would be missing the point wouldn't it?
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#64
RE: Conspiracy Theories
(February 12, 2010 at 8:59 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: LOL no I don't haha Smile

Jesus is about humans connecting with God. You can get wrapped up in trying to find out if the actual person existed or then performed miracles amid a society where miracle workers were commonplace completely un-evidenced or verifiable even at the time... but that would be missing the point wouldn't it?

So the bible can't be taken literally except for the parts about Jesus, which are shady at best because there were many others like him at the time and there is no verifiable evidence. But it's totally true. You just gotta believe it is.

You heard it here first, ladies and gentlemen.



What.

The.

Fuck.
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#65
RE: Conspiracy Theories
You seem to have special glasses with a black/ white filter. I said nothing has to be taken literally. Including Jesus. The point of the story isn't the historicity or literal fact.
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#66
RE: Conspiracy Theories
(February 12, 2010 at 7:32 pm)tavarish Wrote:
(February 12, 2010 at 5:06 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Perverters of truth claim the bible makes scientific statements and then knocks them down like the big strawmen they are.

Should the bible be taken literally or metaphorically?


Absolutely,like all fairy tales.Cool Shades
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#67
RE: Conspiracy Theories
(February 12, 2010 at 9:44 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You seem to have special glasses with a black/ white filter. I said nothing has to be taken literally. Including Jesus. The point of the story isn't the historicity or literal fact.

You seem to not understand the difference between real and make-believe.

The notion that it could all be fabricated doesn't strike you as a conflict of interest within the religion?

If Jesus was not a metaphor, what was he, if not a literal interpretation of the events?
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#68
RE: Conspiracy Theories
Jesus was not a metaphor he was a name. The Son of God was a title. For the most part we Christians folow the title regardless of the label on the shirt of whoever's wearing it. The mantle of God could rest on anyone's shoulders, and his voice is everywhere. .. now you have me ranting. :S
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
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#69
RE: Conspiracy Theories
Like I keep saying tavarish - it doesn't matter if it was real or not... the message of the story is what is really important. Like fables... the facts of the individual players is irrelevant - it's the point of the story that makes them valid. I suppose you dismiss fables too and the simple logic points they make?
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#70
RE: Conspiracy Theories
Storytelling and art in general is about the information "between the lines". It has been described as a truth wrapped in untruth. Whether or not the bible is a real account of real events is very much beside the point. Was Goldilocks a real account of real events? Certainly not. Is it a fallacious waste of time? No, it is just a children's story, a fable. The code in it is that to rich people poor people appear to be not human at all. And we are the bears. And if you fuck with my fucking porridge I will fucking eat you. Yup.
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