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Conspiracy Theories
RE: Conspiracy Theories
Hey I say what the evidence suggests. I think I was being fair to the US as a whole. You, not being a Christian, and obviously very biased against, with no logical reason for doing so that is yet apparent... yeah I take your opinion on the state of Christianity in your country with a pinch of salt.

tav Wrote:You do realize your religion adheres to this western model and does not operate isolated from everyone, correct? You'd be crazy to think that the same type of batshit insanity can't be found in your own backyard.

That _was_ my point yes.
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RE: Conspiracy Theories
(February 18, 2010 at 7:12 pm)tavarish Wrote:


There are people that believe Christ died for them, go to Church, but have never picked up a Bible in their lives because they believe what is told to them in sermons. Do you discount them as being unqualified? Would some regard YOU as being unqualified to make such an assessment?

I still find it funny that every religious person thinks every other religious person has it wrong. High five for being self righteous.


I find it more honest to qualify your beliefs with knowledge than with blind faith, and that was my main point. They may claim all day they have faith, but without at least a little introspection or fact checking they shouldn't call that faith belief. They could be living in the spirit and have it exactly right and be qualified, but they're still living in blind faith. Justice is blind, religion is blind, why does everyone have such a hard time seeing? They are simply uninformed, not necessarily wrong. Leading a life based off faith alone usually leads to either zealousy, disbelief or self-righteous indignation, of which disbelief would be the lesser of the "evils" Smile

(February 18, 2010 at 6:10 pm)tackattack Wrote: I do agree that we have a large problem with obesity though.
I'll leave the politics out of it and we can agree on that then.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
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RE: Conspiracy Theories
Quote:It is meant solely as a means to make individuals more prosperous, and in turn, make the country more productive.

That is one side of the dichotomy. The other side is that capitalism is innately immoral and exploitative.(Marx 101)

I reject both views.Capitalism is a pragmatic economic system with some interesting fantasies, such as the intrinsic value of objects.The system is amoral, as indeed is politics. Capitalism and politics both work on one and only one principle "the ends justify the means".

Most individuals are moral at least some of the time, few are consistently moral. Some individuals seem to work for the common good,most do not.

The most powerful motivator of humans as a species is self interest,not the common good.

I do not claim my position is an absolute truth.I assert only it's how I interpret human behaviour. The underlying philosophy is called 'egoism'. (specifically,psychological AND rational[/quote])) I present my view as one of the alternatives to yours.



Quote:Psychological egoism is the view that humans are always motivated by self-interest, even in what seem to be acts of altruism. It claims that, when people choose to help others, they do so ultimately because of the personal benefits that they themselves expect to obtain, directly or indirectly, from doing so. It is a non-normative view, since it only makes claims about how things are, not how they ought to be. It is, however, related to several other normative forms of egoism, such as ethical egoism and rational egoism.[quote]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_egoism
In ethical philosophy, rational selfishness, or rational egoism or egotism is the principle that an action is rational if and only if it maximizes one's self-interest[1]. The view is a normative form of egoism. However, it is different from other forms of egoism, such as ethical egoism and psychological egoism.[2] While psychological egoism is about motivation and ethical egoism is about morality, rational egoism is a view about rationality (where rationality may or may not be tied to morality). Ethical egoism is also different from amoralism.[quote]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_egoism
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