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RE: So you when to hell now what.
November 21, 2014 at 10:12 am
(November 21, 2014 at 10:07 am)Smaug Wrote: Putting aside the mythological view, in reality Devil is there only because there has to be an antagonist, an ultimate scapegoat and a big bad boogeyman to scare the Flock with. It isn't really that big of a problem for the Clergy that after scrutinizing the text with reason the Devil doesn't appear so bad in comparison with Yahweh. That being so because one of the most strictly enforced messages of Abrahamic religions is the message of total conformity. Submit ot face severe consiquences. Religion is somewhat of a lazy ruler's tool. Adepts are usually too afraid to even think about viewing their sacred text from a sceptical point of view. In fact, BOTH God and Devil are there to communicate that simple message of conformity through fear.
Except yaweh is like conform or i will flood the damn earth again.
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
November 21, 2014 at 10:30 am
The sad thing is, however, that aside from such purely mythical accounts of divine wrath as casting to Hell and assorted eschatological prodigies the churches also rely on more 'mundane' fear factors such as 'divine' interpretations of happenings and divinely-inspired violence. The latter works to take care of unbelievers and heretics and to make a point to "insecure" doubting believers at the same time.
If there's one thing that the Churches have ever been adept in it's controlling people through fear and deception.
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
November 21, 2014 at 11:48 am
(November 21, 2014 at 10:30 am)Smaug Wrote: The sad thing is, however, that aside from such purely mythical accounts of divine wrath as casting to Hell and assorted eschatological prodigies the churches also rely on more 'mundane' fear factors such as 'divine' interpretations of happenings and divinely-inspired violence. The latter works to take care of unbelievers and heretics and to make a point to "insecure" doubting believers at the same time.
If there's one thing that the Churches have ever been adept in it's controlling people through fear and deception.
there is to much fear and people already have issues in life why do they need a church to tell them what other stuff to worry about. that would the last thing on my mind before i have to worry about where i am going when i die. its a irrational fear to put on people its a irrational fear of the unknown but tries to answer it with you will go to heaven or go to hell. this place is bright its lively people love each other and there is music then there is hell its bad you get punctured with pitch forks get burned alive. though hell would be heaven for masochists. Fear shouldn't be taught in church but hope that is more useful than irrational fear.
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
November 21, 2014 at 12:10 pm
(November 20, 2014 at 10:09 pm)dyresand Wrote: So your in hell for one reason or another.
what would you do there? That depends on which particular hell I find myself in.
If it's the classic fire-and-brimstone version where you burn but never die, I suppose I'd spend all my time screaming "I'M BURNING AHHHHH" over and over for eternity. Tedious, yet not exactly boring.
If it's the more modern "hell is a separation from god" version, then I guess I'd go about my afterlife the way I go about life now, since I'm already separated from god. Since I was already dead, I'd go on crazy adventures armed only with a sword and my wits, and hopefully have some penthouse pet as a sidekick-slash-love-interest. Unless you can't get it up in the afterlife, in which case I'd just have a talking raccoon follow me around as comedy relief.
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
November 21, 2014 at 12:40 pm
(November 21, 2014 at 12:10 pm)Tonus Wrote: (November 20, 2014 at 10:09 pm)dyresand Wrote: So your in hell for one reason or another.
what would you do there? That depends on which particular hell I find myself in.
If it's the classic fire-and-brimstone version where you burn but never die, I suppose I'd spend all my time screaming "I'M BURNING AHHHHH" over and over for eternity. Tedious, yet not exactly boring.
If it's the more modern "hell is a separation from god" version, then I guess I'd go about my afterlife the way I go about life now, since I'm already separated from god. Since I was already dead, I'd go on crazy adventures armed only with a sword and my wits, and hopefully have some penthouse pet as a sidekick-slash-love-interest. Unless you can't get it up in the afterlife, in which case I'd just have a talking raccoon follow me around as comedy relief.
it sound like you will have a great adventure. if its only a separation from god i can live my after life pretty well considering if its classic i'm going to burn hell after awhile of burning and screaming i would probably for my sake and sanity would start singing disco inferno by the tramps. if living without god is a separation from god and its like living life all over again i wouldn't mind.
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
November 21, 2014 at 1:30 pm
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(November 21, 2014 at 2:58 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 21, 2014 at 2:21 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: What would I do in Hell?
I'd open a cafe, of course.
No one eats in hell nor do they drink.
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Oh, you've been there? Tell me more. Do they have music stores? No, I mean ones that sell something besides banjos, accordians, and bagpipes.
Is it true that the beer is served warm? That's just fucking nasty.
Are those succubi as lovely as they appear? Because they look hot to me.
Tell us what you know about hell ... and more importantly, tell us how you know it.
(November 21, 2014 at 9:21 am)dyresand Wrote: (November 21, 2014 at 2:21 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: What would I do in Hell?
I'd open a cafe, of course.
ill be wanting a cold glass of water.
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
November 21, 2014 at 1:35 pm
(November 20, 2014 at 11:59 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (November 20, 2014 at 10:45 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: I've got to say that the christer heaven and the christer hell don't seem that much different. Long term, they both suck.
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
November 21, 2014 at 1:35 pm
(November 21, 2014 at 2:58 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 21, 2014 at 2:21 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: What would I do in Hell?
I'd open a cafe, of course.
No one eats in hell nor do they drink.
GC
No, they just hid the food and drink when you were there.
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
November 21, 2014 at 1:40 pm
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</3 you when to hell *Losty weeps
(November 21, 2014 at 2:58 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 21, 2014 at 2:21 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: What would I do in Hell?
I'd open a cafe, of course.
No one eats in hell nor do they drink.
GC
Wrong. People eat and drink the finest things while on break from the orgy and the other fun shit we do. All the fun people go to hell ya know and some of us are great cooks
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
November 21, 2014 at 1:46 pm
Wait, no one told me about the orgies.
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