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I need major help with my Christian Family
#41
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 9, 2015 at 3:57 am)coolfunkDJ Wrote:
(February 8, 2015 at 11:05 pm)Godschild Wrote:


Well if that is true, then I can burn in hell, honestly, according to the bible, God is a serial killer and kind of a douche, I realise this now

I'm positive the God of the Bible exists, no doubts. See you've asked these people to make decisions for you, in other words you have adopted them as parents, you really believe that is a good thing. Have they loved you these 14 years, feed you, gave you a home and all parents do for their child, have they? Does what a parent do for their child seem they would steer one in the wrong direction? Don't you believe your parents have the right to handle this, they gave you life, they've worried over you daily, their the ones that's guided you in many ways for 14 years. Tell me which one of these on this site have changed your diapers, watched over you when you were sick, fix meals for you every day and all the other caring things parents do for their children. I'm old enough to be your parents parent, I've seen things even they have not lived long enough to see and understand, so believe me when I say this, these people here couldn't care less if you wind up in hell, all they are looking for is a victory, their hatred for God blinds them. If you do not believe me read the responses that came my way from them, judge for yourself. You need to think about the love your parents and you have for each other and you might want to brows through this forum and see the relationship some of these gave up with their families, just to be an atheist. Seems to me they chose atheism over family and you know what they cry about Jesus saying He was more important than family, if they only knew what He meant. I have no other advise to give you and the decisions your's and no one else's.
Wishing you a good future with your family.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#42
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: see the relationship some of these gave up with their families, just to be an atheist. Seems to me they chose atheism over family

What a breathtakingly dishonest and morally repugnant series of bullshittery.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#43
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
No one chooses to be an atheist. It's a state of mind. If you are no longer convinced, you are an atheist. There isn't some switch you can flip back, even if you wanted to. No more than you could switch over to be Muslim. All you can do is pretend to still believe.

So stop trying to insult people for "choosing to be atheist". It's (God)childish.
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#44
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: ... See you've asked these people to make decisions for you, in other words you have adopted them as parents, you really believe that is a good thing. Have they loved you these 14 years, feed you, gave you a home and all parents do for their child, have they? Does what a parent do for their child seem they would steer one in the wrong direction? Don't you believe your parents have the right to handle this, they gave you life, they've worried over you daily, their the ones that's guided you in many ways for 14 years. Tell me which one of these on this site have changed your diapers, watched over you when you were sick, fix meals for you every day and all the other caring things parents do for their children.


So, you think children of Muslim parents are correct to believe in Islam, since their parents took care of them? That children of Hindus are correct to believe in Hinduism, since their parents took care of them? That children of Buddhists are correct to believe in Buddhism, since their parents took care of them?

Have you no regard at all for people believing the truth? Following your advice, most people in the world would believe falsehoods. This is because, no matter what one believes about religion, most other people in the world disagree. If everyone simply (mindlessly, really) believes whatever fool thing their parents believe, most people will be wrong.


(February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm old enough to be your parents parent, I've seen things even they have not lived long enough to see and understand, so believe me when I say this, these people here couldn't care less if you wind up in hell, all they are looking for is a victory, their hatred for God blinds them.


That is pretty funny! Do you hate the Easter Bunny, if you don't believe it exists?

(February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: If you do not believe me read the responses that came my way from them, judge for yourself. You need to think about the love your parents and you have for each other and you might want to brows through this forum and see the relationship some of these gave up with their families, just to be an atheist. Seems to me they chose atheism over family and you know what they cry about Jesus saying He was more important than family, if they only knew what He meant. I have no other advise to give you and the decisions your's and no one else's.
Wishing you a good future with your family.

GC


This is also quite funny. Following your advice, the children of atheists ought to be atheists, since their parents took care of them.

Personally, I think you are giving the worst advice possible, in that following it would condemn most people to believing falsehoods and lies. I say, believe in accordance with the evidence. If someone loves you, it does not make them correct. Nor does it make them incorrect, either. It is, in fact, fundamentally irrelevant to the issue of whether they are right or wrong about matters of religion. This is an obvious fact, yet you seem to be unaware of it.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#45
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm positive the God of the Bible exists, no doubts.

I'm positive you are infested with body thetans and are a suppressed person, no doubts.

Quote:See you've asked these people to make decisions for you, in other words you have adopted them as parents, you really believe that is a good thing.

Sounds like young padawan made the decision before arriving on our shores.

Quote:Have they loved you these 14 years, feed you, gave you a home and all parents do for their child, have they? Does what a parent do for their child seem they would steer one in the wrong direction? Don't you believe your parents have the right to handle this, they gave you life, they've worried over you daily, their the ones that's guided you in many ways for 14 years. Tell me which one of these on this site have changed your diapers, watched over you when you were sick, fix meals for you every day and all the other caring things parents do for their children.

None of your attempted emotionalism has any bearing on the existence of Jeesus, his fuckwit dad or the super scary ghostly thingy. Parents do well-meaning but stupid shit all of the time. I know. I have a whole passel of chillin's. Like a Jesus or a rock star, I have children everywhere! One of my biggest mistakes was letting my ex attempt to indoctrinate our children in Christian chuckle-fuckery. Fortunately, it backfired as only one out of five have "accepted the Lord".

Quote: I'm old enough to be your parents parent, I've seen things even they have not lived long enough to see and understand, so believe me when I say this, these people here couldn't care less if you wind up in hell,

Nor do you care about your body thetans and the impact they are having on your life and judgment! Get an audit now. Ask me how! $20k should get you well on your way! I'm an old geezer to GC. Perhaps, not in your geezery league, but like that song, I've Been Everywhere Man! Seen enough human nonsense to last a lifetime. Or two. Or three.

Quote:all they are looking for is a victory, their hatred for God blinds them.

Not hatred for god GC. Hatred for superstitious bullshit. Victory over that is certainly a laudable goal.

Quote:If you do not believe me read the responses that came my way from them, judge for yourself. You need to think about the love your parents and you have for each other and you might want to brows through this forum and see the relationship some of these gave up with their families, just to be an atheist. Seems to me they chose atheism over family and you know what they cry about Jesus saying He was more important than family, if they only knew what He meant. I have no other advise to give you and the decisions your's and no one else's.
Wishing you a good future with your family.

Since many religious types, Christian as well, seem to be some of the most judgmental, intolerant pricks on the planet, perhaps the fault of any broken relationships lies more with the purveyor of superstitious bullshit as a worldview, rather than the rejector of said bullshit.

My racist parents disowned me because I wasn't down with whole bigotry thing! And I know its *my* fault! /sarc

Gee, this is fun.

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#46
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(February 9, 2015 at 3:57 am)coolfunkDJ Wrote: Well if that is true, then I can burn in hell, honestly, according to the bible, God is a serial killer and kind of a douche, I realise this now

I'm positive the God of the Bible exists, no doubts. See you've asked these people to make decisions for you, in other words you have adopted them as parents, you really believe that is a good thing. Have they loved you these 14 years, feed you, gave you a home and all parents do for their child, have they? Does what a parent do for their child seem they would steer one in the wrong direction? Don't you believe your parents have the right to handle this, they gave you life, they've worried over you daily, their the ones that's guided you in many ways for 14 years. Tell me which one of these on this site have changed your diapers, watched over you when you were sick, fix meals for you every day and all the other caring things parents do for their children. I'm old enough to be your parents parent, I've seen things even they have not lived long enough to see and understand, so believe me when I say this, these people here couldn't care less if you wind up in hell, all they are looking for is a victory, their hatred for God blinds them. If you do not believe me read the responses that came my way from them, judge for yourself. You need to think about the love your parents and you have for each other and you might want to brows through this forum and see the relationship some of these gave up with their families, just to be an atheist. Seems to me they chose atheism over family and you know what they cry about Jesus saying He was more important than family, if they only knew what He meant. I have no other advise to give you and the decisions your's and no one else's.
Wishing you a good future with your family.

GC

To be honest, you're kind of a dick, saying that i have taken these people as my adopted parents, how does me being a different faith mean I dont love my parents, I love them more than anything in the world, and I dont need Jesus fucking Christ to show that love, they're amazing, and don't ever guilt trip me into thinking I dont love my parents, because you're wrong. But I don't need to believe everything my parents believe in to show my affection, go away "GC", this is why I find christianity wrong.
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#47
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 9, 2015 at 6:32 pm)coolfunkDJ Wrote: ... how does me being a different faith mean I dont love my parents, I love them more than anything in the world, and I dont need Jesus fucking Christ to show that love, they're amazing, and don't ever guilt trip me into thinking I dont love my parents, because you're wrong. But I don't need to believe everything my parents believe in to show my affection, go away "GC", this is why I find christianity wrong.

Indeed. If one could only love someone with whom one agreed completely, who would one love?

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#48
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
It's really sad these theists come in like rabid dogs, trying to injure those who they see as vulnerable newcomers; issuing threats and judgement in an attempt to score points with their imaginary friend.

Luckily for us, it never works and just makes theists look even more ridiculous.
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#49
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: [...]You need to think about the love your parents and you have for each other and you might want to brows through this forum and see the relationship some of these gave up with their families, just to be an atheist. [...]

Wow, that's pretty rich, coming from a Christian. May I remind you what act led to the covenant between Abraham and your god? Abraham was ready to murder his own child, because a voice inside his head told him to. And he didn't even know anything about heaven, hell, or even god - since there was no bible and especially no New Testament. He just did it because he feared a voice in his head more than he loved his family. You follow that mythical coward (and most likely a mental case), just as the Jews and the Muslims do. And call him "father"... For shame!

And what about all the people who gave up their families to follow Jesus around? If someone joins some stupid new cult, rejects his old "religion providers" and cuts off contact with their family - Christians make a big fuss and call it a bad - even immoral - decision; and yet - that's precisely how your own particular sect... I apollogize... re-li-jin started. Hypocritical much?

I'll leave you with this lovely quote, to ponder upon, before you decide to lecture anybody about family again.

34"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35"For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW; 36 and A MAN'S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD".
Matthew 10:34-36
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#50
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
GC please clarify are you this dishonest or just being stupid?
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