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RE: So you when to hell now what.
June 5, 2015 at 12:12 am
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(April 4, 2015 at 11:02 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Every person should be able to state at five reasons for the universe’s existence’s. Amazingly, the atheists can’t even state one…
I can.
But the universe has only one reason to exist:
It's all in the plan.
A matter of fine tuning.
The physical constants are delicately balanced to produce the primordial H and a little He which coalesced into stars.
The first generation stars went nova after making C and N and I and all the elements necessary for the execution of the plan.
This mixture formed another generation of stars with planets one of which is in just the right location for organic life to emerge.
And life did emerge exactly according to the plan and began to evolve.
And humans domesticated hopps and barley according to the plan.
And eventually, after billions of years, evolution produced Willis Carrier, the inventor of mechanical refrigeration.
And, executing the culmination of the plan, I just went to the refrigerator and got another beer.
Which is the reason for the existence of the universe.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? 
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
June 5, 2015 at 1:57 am
Because our scientific operating manual doesn't tell us we can make up shit if we don't have the answer.
This is where religion takes bullshit to a new level. ------enter "afterlife".
To you guys, unfalsifiabilty is the new "scientific fact".
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
June 12, 2015 at 1:33 am
(May 22, 2015 at 3:12 am)Stimbo Wrote: How does continuing 'creation' account for the Cosmic Microwave Background, which BBT does with elegant economy? BBT is elegant because the law of physics are embedded. The universe has a sample size of one, so the BB had to be spot on.
“continuing creation” - Creation hasn't been continuous, the 'days' are interspersed with periods of no creation; i.e., between the first day and the BB was billion of years; and no creation in the 7'th day which we're currently in (around 75,000 years). Heaven and earth prepared for 13 billion years for mankind. There won't be anymore creation for this universe; it's nearing it's end and will have served it's purpose. God's plan to redeem humanity from the fatal allusion of spiritual autonomy will be completed.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
June 12, 2015 at 7:54 am
"Continuing creation" may refer to the creative arguments being summoned out of thin ass by theists.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
June 12, 2015 at 8:09 am
Also, continuing creation =/= continuous creation. If I eat roast beef for every meal and have done since I was a child, one could say I am continuing to eat roast beef. But that doesn't imply that I'm continually eating without a break.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
June 12, 2015 at 11:05 pm
(June 12, 2015 at 7:54 am)Tonus Wrote: "Continuing creation" may refer to the creative arguments being summoned out of thin ass by theists. Aren't new stars being formed even now? And don't stars create new elements? Hasn't life forms on Earth changed over time? Do you really think creation ended billions of years ago?
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
June 13, 2015 at 3:48 am
(June 12, 2015 at 11:05 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (June 12, 2015 at 7:54 am)Tonus Wrote: "Continuing creation" may refer to the creative arguments being summoned out of thin ass by theists. Aren't new stars being formed even now? And don't stars create new elements? Hasn't life forms on Earth changed over time? Do you really think creation ended billions of years ago? Hasn't been any creation since homo sapiens sapiens approx. 100-50 tya which completed the 6'th day (the final act for now). Currently in the 7'th day which is: from the end of the 6'th day + undisclosed period time from now (likely a 95% probability less than 100 years) + 7 year tribulation period+1000 year Kingdom of Christ on earth (fulfillment of the Old Testament promise). Then resumption of creation which will have completely new physics, after the current universe is destroyed by fire likened to a scroll rolling up.
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
June 13, 2015 at 4:23 am
Interesting. Insane, but interesting. So how does the continued creation prior to Yahweh's day off account for the Cosmic Microwave Background?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
June 13, 2015 at 7:45 am
Everything after "hasn't been any creation" is superfluous.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: So you when to hell now what.
June 13, 2015 at 7:49 am
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