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'After-birth abortion' is logically sound
March 9, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Quote:A paper in the Journal of Medical Ethics, entitled "After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?, argues that killing a newborn baby should be "permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled". (Hat-tip: Catholic Herald.)
The authors of this paper, Alberto Giubilini of the University of Milan and Francesca Minerva of Melbourne University, argue that "both fetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons". Secondly, they say that "the fact that both are potential persons is morally irrelevant". Thirdly, they write that "adoption is not always in the best interest of actual people".
In summary – and it really is this brutal – newborn babies are not actual people, ergo killing them is not immoral.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willhe...-movement/
WHAT THE HECK???
I wish these scientists just drop dead right now... bloody horrendous...
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RE: 'After-birth abortion' is logically sound
March 9, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Sounds reasonable. I mean, that would save plenty of dumpster space.
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RE: 'After-birth abortion' is logically sound
March 10, 2012 at 12:51 am
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2012 at 12:52 am by Rokcet Scientist.)
Quote:newborn babies are not actual people, ergo killing them is not immoral.
Well, if killing living things is not immoral as long as they are not people lets go puppy killing! YAY!
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RE: 'After-birth abortion' is logically sound
March 10, 2012 at 1:11 am
I had a turkey sandwich...Im sure the turkey was a healthy adult.
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RE: 'After-birth abortion' is logically sound
March 10, 2012 at 1:20 am
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2012 at 1:23 am by Welsh cake.)
I couldn't bring myself to abort a newborn baby.
But that's just me, looking away from the mirror for one minute, I appreciate the rest of humanity does not share my position, or the notion of the sanctity of life in general.
I guess it was inevitable that stupid unemployed kids having WAY too many children together on welfare have put us in this controversial and undesirable position. When they abuse infants and their own offspring badly and hold them in the same regard as 'frog spawn' we shouldn't be surprised that abortion would become an issue.
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RE: 'After-birth abortion' is logically sound
March 10, 2012 at 3:45 am
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2012 at 4:09 am by Zen Badger.)
Since the "pro-lifers" are generally shit hot and shiny on the death penalty for adults I can't see why they would have a problem with this.
P.s I notice the source of the article is the Catholic Herald 
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RE: 'After-birth abortion' is logically sound
March 10, 2012 at 3:52 am
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(March 10, 2012 at 3:45 am)Zen Badger Wrote: I notice the source of the article is the Catholic times
That's what all good Muslims read.
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RE: 'After-birth abortion' is logically sound
March 10, 2012 at 3:54 am
Yeah ....funny aboot that!
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RE: 'After-birth abortion' is logically sound
March 10, 2012 at 4:14 am
Sorry, quick edit there, it was the Catholic Herald, not the times.
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RE: 'After-birth abortion' is logically sound
March 10, 2012 at 4:49 am
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(March 9, 2012 at 10:36 pm)Niqabi Ninja Wrote: Quote:A paper in the Journal of Medical Ethics, entitled "After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?, argues that killing a newborn baby should be "permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled". (Hat-tip: Catholic Herald.)
The authors of this paper, Alberto Giubilini of the University of Milan and Francesca Minerva of Melbourne University, argue that "both fetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons". Secondly, they say that "the fact that both are potential persons is morally irrelevant". Thirdly, they write that "adoption is not always in the best interest of actual people".
In summary – and it really is this brutal – newborn babies are not actual people, ergo killing them is not immoral.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willhe...-movement/
WHAT THE HECK???
I wish these scientists just drop dead right now... bloody horrendous...
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