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Do you think there's a point to your existence??
#41
RE: Do you think there's a point to your existence??
(March 27, 2012 at 5:28 am)Christian Wrote: Playing by your own rules, please provide evidence of this claim.

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There are estimated to be 400 billion stars just in the Milky Way Galaxy alone. We have charted approximately a 80-100 billion galaxies all with 100's of billions of stars. If you're dense and arrogant enough to believe that we are the only sentient beings in this vastness you're a fucking idiot. There's no other way to put it.



Woah woah woah... just saw this post:
Quote:The problem is that with billions of dollars spent on exploration of the space, scientists have not found anything. Why spend so much when they can simply look up for the answers in the Holy Book.

People like you are the problem. This is why I hate religion. You would hinder our scientific advancement based on some bullshit written by bronze age morons? How pathetic. You don't even deserve to have a conscious mind, what a waste.
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#42
RE: Do you think there's a point to your existence??
Ah ..Mosh.... NOW I understand what your issue is.

Yes Christian is one of our 'special disability' people. He/ she gets his/her information from a pastor? Who clearly is not as learned as one would expect a person with any sort of University degree... but apparently theology does not require any intellect nor qualifications other than "godidit" and the talent to con/ swindle innocent people of their ability to think for themselves. Yes Christian has been TOLD to believe that he/she is special...irrespective of the gross inadequacy of the 'pastor' who is instructing him/ her
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#43
RE: Do you think there's a point to your existence??
(March 27, 2012 at 10:43 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Ah ..Mosh.... NOW I understand what your issue is.

Yes Christian is one of our 'special disability' people. He/ she gets his/her information from a pastor? Who clearly is not as learned as one would expect a person with any sort of University degree... but apparently theology does not require any intellect nor qualifications other than "godidit" and the talent to con/ swindle innocent people of their ability to think for themselves. Yes Christian has been TOLD to believe that he/she is special...irrespective of the gross inadequacy of the 'pastor' who is instructing him/ her

It's a plague of the mind. I'm sick of it. I can't believe that people still follow this shit.
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#44
RE: Do you think there's a point to your existence??
(March 27, 2012 at 10:59 am)Mosrhun Wrote:
(March 27, 2012 at 10:43 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Ah ..Mosh.... NOW I understand what your issue is.

Yes Christian is one of our 'special disability' people. He/ she gets his/her information from a pastor? Who clearly is not as learned as one would expect a person with any sort of University degree... but apparently theology does not require any intellect nor qualifications other than "godidit" and the talent to con/ swindle innocent people of their ability to think for themselves. Yes Christian has been TOLD to believe that he/she is special...irrespective of the gross inadequacy of the 'pastor' who is instructing him/ her

It's a plague of the mind. I'm sick of it. I can't believe that people still follow this shit.

Try my end of history, or padraic's, Min's or Watchman's point of view! At least NOW should you come across one of my "Grumpesius" moods you will understand why Big Grin
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#45
RE: Do you think there's a point to your existence??
(March 27, 2012 at 3:59 am)Christian Wrote: Don't you agree that the universe would have been void of meaning if humans were not created?

No.

(March 27, 2012 at 3:59 am)Christian Wrote: I believe that the whole point of our existence is to enjoy the universe (and everything in it) that God created for us.

Care to expand your definition?
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#46
RE: Do you think there's a point to your existence??
(March 27, 2012 at 5:28 am)Christian Wrote:
(March 27, 2012 at 5:26 am)Ace Otana Wrote: That's very arrogant. Very very arrogant.
What makes you think we're the only ones with nature's gift of reason? Billions of stars, billions of planets orbiting them and billions of galaxies. Good chance there are other sapient beings out there. Just saying.

Playing by your own rules, please provide evidence of this claim.

Dolphins have been proven to show reasoning by the way.

You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.

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#47
RE: Do you think there's a point to your existence??
(March 27, 2012 at 5:28 am)Christian Wrote: Playing by your own rules
You wish.

You're not even in the same league as Ace.
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#48
RE: Do you think there's a point to your existence??
YOUR rules Christian ...
1. are to blindly obey some dumb-fuck idiot
2. ignore the suffering that this religion you support imposes on the world
3. and give NOTHING BACK but only take from the people you lie and steal from..

yeah..good on ya Angry
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#49
RE: Do you think there's a point to your existence??
(March 26, 2012 at 9:21 pm)Blanca Wrote:
(March 26, 2012 at 8:41 pm)Mosrhun Wrote: As Carl Sagan once said, "We are a way for the Cosmos to know itself." Our purpose is to exist, explore and gain knowledge as a species, in my opinion.

I like carl sagan, too. This train of thought echo's earkhart tolle. I think it's kind of a strange concept. Tolle thinks the universe is playing games with form to get to know itself better. It kind of makes sense since evolution makes such small subtle changes that it would give one a chance to know the very subtleties of oneself.

But it's weird to think that the Cosmos want to get to know itself- a little anthropomorphic?


(March 26, 2012 at 5:58 pm)R-e-n-n-a-t Wrote: If you want to get really precise, sadness and happiness shunt you down certain paths because of the biological need to pass on your genetics. In the modern age, we know that people can live their entire lives without multiplying, and that's great. However, the cause of emotion is the drive to spread genes and to survive and fit in long enough to do so, since without that, your genes would be removed from the world and thus demonstrate natural selection.

So let's say that the drive of emotions is the need to pass on one's genetic info. Why is there that need? To me that need would suggest there is a point to reproducing, which suggests that there is meaning to life.
There's no "need" for anything. We exist because it occurs. For example, could a species that did not replicate exist? No? That's why the only existing species replicate.
Why are there species at all? Because (and this is hard to explain, so think really hard please) the randomness itself causes certain substances with the capacity to bond (amino acids) to meld as an act of randomness, a simple accidental infusion of energy from a comet impact or similar event. Looking about a billion years later in the timeline, simple bacteria have formed. They're not even alive in fact at this point, merely merged. Replication occurs when possible for no reason; we simply see it because it was possible, and of course all organisms we see must have had the capacity to replicate or we wouldn't see it. Only the intelligent things survived, not because replication had a point, but because they had the means to replicate which is the only reason the species 'continued'.

Untold legions of species died for every single one that "lived", simply because death is not inherently worse than life, but because life seems to be the point, because we only see 'living' things. Gack this is hard to understand unless you already get it. Think about it for a long, long time, and always keep in mind as you ponder that nothing inherently had to be the 'point' of anything. That's the best I can explain it.

There is no such thing as life or unlife. We are essentially just complex enough reactions that we have attempted to attach meaning to our continued state of existance.

Why live then?
Because I'm scared of dying, and like living, and I wouldn't wish to inflict death upon anyone else. That's only because that's how it must have been for the species to continue, pointlessly, only because it could.

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#50
Do you think there's a point to your existence??
Very well said, R-e-n-n-a-t.
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