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Where Did the Trinity Teaching Come From?
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 (May 23, 2012 at 3:37 pm)Godschild Wrote: Yes the semi-colon separates the two for descriptive purposes, not to separate God and Christ as two different beings. How is it that we can exist for two separate beings when God said, that He is a jealous God and we're not to worship another.ALTER2EGO -to- GODSCHILD: We exist ultimately because of Jehovah. He is the one who gives life to all. Recall that when Jesus died, it was Jehovah that resurrected him. You fail to realize that the pre-human Jesus is himself a created being. As previously stated, Jehovah allowed Jesus Christ—whom he created—the privilege of assisting him in creating all other things. The Bible refers to the pre-human Jesus as follows. "{15} He is the image of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN OF ALL CREATION; {16} because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him. {17} Also, he is before all other things and by means of him all other things were made to exist." (Colossians 1:15-17) That fact alone of Jesus being created debunks the trinity dogma. According to Article I of the Roman Catholic Faith, the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit are CO-EQUAL. A created being can never be equal to the one who created him.  (May 23, 2012 at 10:03 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(May 23, 2012 at 7:06 pm)Cinjin Wrote: this thread is exactly why no one should give Christianity any consideration. Even the dipshits who believe this shit don't agree with the other dipshits....And yet we are the ones using our brains to dig deep into the meaning and significance of the documents that have shaped our world. We learn and grow from each other by comparing our thoughts and correcting one another. It's no different from comparing and advocating the work of different artists while discussing aesthetics. In this area, you are done learning. Suit yourself, but you're only making asses of yourselves with your ignorant insults. So christian of him to to think "digging deep" is the same as "being fooled by", and making a idiot show of "being fooled by" while sanctimoniously intoning the virtues of "digging deep".  (May 23, 2012 at 10:03 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: And yet we are the ones using our brains to dig deep into the meaning and significance of the documents that have shaped our world. We learn and grow from each other by comparing our thoughts and correcting one another. It's no different from comparing and advocating the work of different artists while discussing aesthetics. Correcting each other, you say? But how is that possible? A huge problem in this discussion seems to be that no one is using the same bible. When the text is altered and you start debating minuscule points, isn't that quite futile? You are indeed to my eyes only comparing thoughts on the matter and analyzing, it all comes down to opinion. So who's right, the one who wants to take the text quite literally or the one who wants to analyze the thought behind it? You also mentioned artists and aesthetics, so is it all about taste and preferences? I'm sorry, but I cannot take this discussion any more seriously than two D&D:ers arguing whether 2.0 or 3.5 is the best edition. When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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Now we only need a catholic, a jew and mormon to have a shit flinguing fest
 RE: Where Did the Trinity Teaching Come From?
May 24, 2012 at 5:10 am
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2012 at 5:11 am by Creed of Heresy.)
*parachutes in*
Evolution disproves the entire basis of genesis therefore the very foundational stories of the bible are all made up therefore the bible is fallible and if you can't trust certain parts, you can't trust the rest, therefore the entire thing is a lie and you guys are debating the differences between your lies. Also evolution has scientific evidence, the bible does not, blah blah blah I've been over this before. BLAST OFF, SPACEMAN!! *jetpacks away*  RE: Where Did the Trinity Teaching Come From?
May 24, 2012 at 7:55 am
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 (May 23, 2012 at 1:05 am)Alter2Ego Wrote: DISCUSSION QUESTIONS: Bible study bullshit is nothing more than preaching. You a troll or just brain damaged? |
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