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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 1, 2018 at 8:04 pm
When you ask why was there an expansion or why the universe exists, it's nearly the same as asking why there are snowflakes, why do stars give off light, why is there gravity ?
Imagine a cloud forming in winter. It's loaded with water vapor and the temps drop. Snow falls and from your bedroom window you see the light bouncing off the snowflakes.
For a second the world is magical.
Can you see the analogy ?
The forces of the universe changed in such a way to cause energy to expand out and galactic snowflakes were formed.
It's not a perfect analogy but you can see it right ?
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 1, 2018 at 8:04 pm
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(December 1, 2018 at 6:29 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (December 1, 2018 at 5:58 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Your questions will be easily answered by any undergraduate astronomy text, say, 21st Century Astronomy.
Which one? Title, author(s), page number?
Not saying you're right or wrong, but would like to see what you believe to be the explanation based on the said astronomy text(s) that supposedly exist.
You can rent or buy right here:
Amazon -- 21st Century Astronomy, 5th edition
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 1, 2018 at 8:34 pm
(December 1, 2018 at 8:04 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (December 1, 2018 at 6:29 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Which one? Title, author(s), page number?
Not saying you're right or wrong, but would like to see what you believe to be the explanation based on the said astronomy text(s) that supposedly exist.
You can rent or buy right here:
Amazon -- 21st Century Astronomy, 5th edition
Page number?
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 1, 2018 at 8:55 pm
I've read it; give me several hours or until tomorrow morning, and I'll post a screen shot.
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 1, 2018 at 9:09 pm
(December 1, 2018 at 8:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I've read it; give me several hours or until tomorrow morning, and I'll post a screen shot.
Sure. Thanks for sharing.
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 2, 2018 at 8:21 am
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(December 1, 2018 at 9:09 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (December 1, 2018 at 8:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I've read it; give me several hours or until tomorrow morning, and I'll post a screen shot.
Sure. Thanks for sharing.
As promised (from 21st Century Astronomy, pgs. 181-182):
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 2, 2018 at 5:16 pm
(December 2, 2018 at 8:21 am)Jehanne Wrote: (December 1, 2018 at 9:09 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Sure. Thanks for sharing.
As promised (from 21st Century Astronomy, pgs. 181-182):
First, I kindly thank you for taking the time to post this, and I pretty much agree with everything in it. Actually I think it's mostly things put in high school science texts as well. At least from when I was in school.
The problem still exists though of clockwise rotations vs those that are counter-clockwise. Rotation directly affects energy displacement. Just like if you turn on a fan, the direction the blade turns is going to directly determine where the energy transfers to. This also makes a fan super efficient, because you can use it to add or remove heat energy, giving it to the ability to raise or lower temperatures. It becomes a bit more complicated with planets because there is also supposed to have been an expanse, previously to or during the initial rotational sequence. Even a pointed object is going to have rotation, but more so a sphere, due to the same amount of mass having greater surface area in that form vs something else. Then there is the issue of where the energy came from, and what events caused this, but since we have a gap with 4 planets in between those two planets, I think it's safe to say that there had to be at least two anomalies to explain this, or at least understand the time frame in which both of those planets had their orbit established and how it happened (maybe it had something to do with their alignment when the anamoly took place in contrast to the other planets).
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 2, 2018 at 5:52 pm
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Clockwise or counter-clockwise rotation is simply explained by initial conditions. Flush a toilet here or in the southern hemisphere for a demonstration. We don't need to posit a toilet fairy to account for either.
So..tell me..again..what your potty based problem is supposed to be?
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 2, 2018 at 6:14 pm
(December 2, 2018 at 5:52 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Clockwise or counter-clockwise rotation is simply explained by initial conditions. Flush a toilet here or in the southern hemisphere for a demonstration. We don't need to posit a toilet fairy to account for either.
So..tell me..again..what your potty based problem is supposed to be?
Uranus isn't in the "southern hemisphere." Oh, and it's called "polarization", but keep trying. You'll get one right eventually.
Now go read my original example of firing a bullet from a rifle. You fire the next bullet and you have the same rotation. Now we have nine bullets, because I like Pluto, but two are rotating differently.
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RE: Arguments against existence of God.
December 2, 2018 at 7:51 pm
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Pluto is not a planet due to deep core drilling for plutonium. Just ask Scroopy Noopers.
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