Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: November 1, 2026, 1:17 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 2 Vote(s) - 1 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Arguments against existence of God.
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
Reply
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
Quote:You have religious claims
What claim(s) exactly? Huh
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
Reply
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(December 5, 2018 at 3:34 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: No sorry, cherry picking definitions doesn't work on me.  Try again.

You have religious claims, organization, protections, collect offerings that are tax exempt, and make claims beyond the scope of how said agency is defined.  I live in the United States of America.  Here you are both legally and empirically a "religion" with said protections.  To discount the Chinese is also irrelevant because their definition differs from your said definition and their primary religion is atheism.  Your opinion doesn't dictate anything beyond the scope of who you are.  If you say you are an atheist, that's your opinion.

Atheism is only recognized to have the same religious protections as religions. Beyond religious protection, it is not a religion.

Again, how can a single position on a single claim be a religion?

What religious claims do I have?

Yes, there are atheist organizations with tax exempt status, that take donations. So what? There are 1000's of organizations with tax exempt status and take donations that are not religions.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
Reply
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(December 5, 2018 at 5:30 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(December 5, 2018 at 3:34 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: No sorry, cherry picking definitions doesn't work on me.  Try again.

You have religious claims, organization, protections, collect offerings that are tax exempt, and make claims beyond the scope of how said agency is defined.  I live in the United States of America.  Here you are both legally and empirically a "religion" with said protections.  To discount the Chinese is also irrelevant because their definition differs from your said definition and their primary religion is atheism.  Your opinion doesn't dictate anything beyond the scope of who you are.  If you say you are an atheist, that's your opinion.

Atheism is only recognized to have the same religious protections as religions. Beyond religious protection, it is not a religion.

Again, how can a single position on a single claim be a religion?

What religious claims do I have?

Yes, there are atheist organizations with tax exempt status, that take donations. So what? There are 1000's of organizations with tax exempt status and take donations that are not religions.

Because many atheists have been adding their own dogma to it. If it was merely a single position, as you stated, it would still be just that.
Reply
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(December 5, 2018 at 5:45 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(December 5, 2018 at 5:30 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Atheism is only recognized to have the same religious protections as religions. Beyond religious protection, it is not a religion.

Again, how can a single position on a single claim be a religion?

What religious claims do I have?

Yes, there are atheist organizations with tax exempt status, that take donations. So what? There are 1000's of organizations with tax exempt status and take donations that are not religions.

Because many atheists have been adding their own dogma to it.  If it was merely a single position, as you stated, it would still be just that.

What dogma?

And who exactly are you referring to? I want names.
Reply
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(December 5, 2018 at 3:34 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: No sorry, cherry picking definitions doesn't work on me.  Try again.

You have religious claims, organization, protections, collect offerings that are tax exempt, and make claims beyond the scope of how said agency is defined.  I live in the United States of America.  Here you are both legally and empirically a "religion" with said protections.  To discount the Chinese is also irrelevant because their definition differs from your said definition and their primary religion is atheism.  Your opinion doesn't dictate anything beyond the scope of who you are.  If you say you are an atheist, that's your opinion.

I have no religious claims ... you have demonstrated NONE, I belong to no organizations, (by that idiotic definition, golfing would be a religion, as well as ANY organization where its members have anything in common), protections apply to many groups, not just religious, so fail again, I collect nothing. 

If a religionist says they are a person of faith, it's nothing but their opinion.

Here's the definition of religion. Atheism meets none of the standards of these definitions.
Do try harder again, next time.

"re·li·gion
/rəˈlijən/
noun
noun: religion
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms: faith, belief, worship, creed; More
sect, church, cult, denomination
"the freedom to practice their own religion"
•a particular system of faith and worship.
plural noun: religions
"the world's great religions"
•a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
"consumerism is the new religion"


If you're trying to make a case that no one actually knows what they think, and YOU know better, .... good luck with that one.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
Reply
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
Reply
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
You might want to look up the definition of 'dogma'. Last I checked, atheists haven't rallied around Carrier as an authority on all things atheist. And not all atheists are metaphysical naturalists.
Reply
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
Reply
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(December 5, 2018 at 6:40 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(December 5, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: You might want to look up the definition of 'dogma'. Last I checked, atheists haven't rallied around Carrier as an authority on all things atheist. And not all atheists are metaphysical naturalists.

You don't need all of them.  You have a diversified group of "atheists" that do follow him.  Similar to a church "denomination", but now it's with atheists.

Enjoy your hobby horse.

Meanwhile, we'll await your religion's evidence.
Reply



Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  How you feeling about "Baby Reindeer" and it goes against Sigmund Freud beliefs Reinard9 22 6211 August 8, 2024 at 5:15 am
Last Post: Paleophyte
  My take on one of the arguments about omnipotence ShinyCrystals 9 3317 September 4, 2023 at 2:57 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Is my argument against afterlife an equivocation fallacy? FlatAssembler 61 15953 June 20, 2023 at 5:59 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Do atheists believe in the existence of friendship? KerimF 191 51536 June 9, 2023 at 3:32 pm
Last Post: Mister Agenda
  What is the worst religion in existence? Hi600 89 23540 May 6, 2023 at 12:55 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  A simple argument against God Disagreeable 149 43305 December 29, 2022 at 11:59 am
Last Post: Mister Agenda
  Atheism and the existence of peanut butter R00tKiT 721 199688 November 15, 2022 at 9:47 pm
Last Post: Jackalope
  My Almighty VS your argument against it Won2blv 43 12282 May 5, 2022 at 9:13 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ? R00tKiT 225 65771 April 17, 2022 at 2:11 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Atheists Who Argue Against Generalizing Ghetto Sheldon 33 8811 October 5, 2021 at 8:47 pm
Last Post: Rahn127



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)