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RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 8, 2012 at 12:48 pm
(November 8, 2012 at 3:39 am)Daniel Wrote: (November 6, 2012 at 11:51 am)John V Wrote: Your own verse says that the killer shall be put to death. Is that killing inherently sinful? It states the penalty for sin. You have to remember, that Jews were still not allowed to take justice into their "own hands", read the full passage and this is clear. Is it sinful for people to carry out capital punishment ordered by god?
If not, then on what basis do you claim that killing is inherently sinful? And on what basis do you claim that Drich's position (to which you were responding) is incorrect?
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RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 8, 2012 at 12:51 pm
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(November 8, 2012 at 12:48 pm)John V Wrote: Is it sinful for people to carry out capital punishment ordered by god? No, it isn't (but to be fair, nothing is sinful). On the other hand it is a clear display of abject ignorance.
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RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 9, 2012 at 8:10 am
(November 8, 2012 at 12:48 pm)John V Wrote: If not, then on what basis do you claim that killing is inherently sinful? It's not my job to read the Bible for you.
“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
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RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 9, 2012 at 8:51 am
(November 9, 2012 at 8:10 am)Daniel Wrote: It's not my job to read the Bible for you. That's a copout. Just answer the question. If god orders one person to kill another, is that killing sinful? It seems that you don't want to say "yes," but that would be the logical answer if you really believe that killing is inherently sinful.
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RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 11, 2012 at 11:46 am
(November 9, 2012 at 8:51 am)John V Wrote: (November 9, 2012 at 8:10 am)Daniel Wrote: It's not my job to read the Bible for you. That's a copout. Just answer the question. If god orders one person to kill another, is that killing sinful? It seems that you don't want to say "yes," but that would be the logical answer if you really believe that killing is inherently sinful.
Considering the Israelites did just this in their genocidal sweep through Canaan we all know the answer he doesn't need to admit it.
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RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 11, 2012 at 12:20 pm
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God reminds me of the Hulk: powerful, supposedly good, and big nasty temper tantrums.
Oh, and: imaginary.
Maybe he's green too? Nah, my analogy fails, we're made in his image and we're not green. (Although we're probably not made in his image because he's imaginary). Maybe we are green but we don't look green to ourselves?
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RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 11, 2012 at 1:59 pm
The Hulk never murdered 99.9% of the creatures on earth in an act of premeditated mass murder.
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RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 11, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Hey, I didn't say that I wasn't making massively inappropriately vague generalizations 
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RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 11, 2012 at 3:08 pm
(November 11, 2012 at 11:46 am)Utracia Wrote: (November 9, 2012 at 8:51 am)John V Wrote: That's a copout. Just answer the question. If god orders one person to kill another, is that killing sinful? It seems that you don't want to say "yes," but that would be the logical answer if you really believe that killing is inherently sinful.
Considering the Israelites did just this in their genocidal sweep through Canaan we all know the answer he doesn't need to admit it.
There was no genocidal sweep through Canaan. Which raises the intriguing and troubling question of the mental health of the people who later invented such a blood-thirsty story and attributed it to their fucking "god."
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RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 11, 2012 at 3:36 pm
(November 11, 2012 at 2:50 pm)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: Hey, I didn't say that I wasn't making massively inappropriately vague generalizations
All I'm saying is that if I had to choose, I'd worship The Hulk.
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