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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 10:35 am
Maybe you should tell me
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 10:39 am
Nope, more fun this way.
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 10:44 am
Well....see, that makes me think you don't actually have a point or an argument and you are in fact trolling. And given your history, i'm more inclined to believe you are squinting you eyes at the computer screen, typing furiously, trying to come up with new, more original, snide remarks and insults.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 10:45 am
(October 24, 2013 at 10:34 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: So basically you don't understand what the word means. See the rest of the post which you quoted.
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 11:17 am
(This post was last modified: October 24, 2013 at 11:22 am by Doubting Thomas.)
Just saying "The bible translation means something else" doesn't change the definition of "omnipotent." And you're just using the "lost in translation" defense. Besides, "almighty" means the same thing as "all powerful."
Quote:om·nip·o·tent
[om-nip-uh-tuhnt]
adjective
1.
almighty or infinite in power, as God.
The fact that your bible contradicts itself is a flaw of your bible, not a flaw of word definitions. It doesn't matter what translation you choose to use anyway, because you'd think a being powerful enough to create the entire universe would be able to prevent living beings on one tiny speck of it from suffering.
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 11:29 am
(This post was last modified: October 24, 2013 at 11:32 am by John V.)
(October 24, 2013 at 11:17 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Just saying "The bible translation means something else" doesn't change the definition of "omnipotent." Most English Bible translations don't use the word "omnipotent," so I don't need to change it's definition. Rather, you're changing the word almighty to omnipotent.
Quote:And you're just using the "lost in translation" defense.
I'm not familiar with that one. What is it?
Quote:It doesn't matter what translation you choose to use, because you'd think a being powerful enough to create the entire universe would be able to prevent living beings on one tiny speck of it from suffering.
I agree that he's able to prevent suffering. I disagree that he can both prevent suffering and yet allow us to learn things such as comforting others and self-sacrifice.
If you're simply arguing that the god of the bible doesn't meet certain definitions you can come up with, then - OK. So what?
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 11:57 am
(October 24, 2013 at 8:36 am)John V Wrote: So, the Bible does not portray God as able to do anything.
How could the creator of all reality not be able to do anything it wanted? It literally wrote the rules that the universe works by.
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 12:29 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 11:57 am)Faith No More Wrote: How could the creator of all reality not be able to do anything it wanted? It literally wrote the rules that the universe works by. Do you think god should be able to create an indivisible object, and also a half of that object?
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 12:31 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 12:29 pm)John V Wrote: Do you think god should be able to create an indivisible object, and also a half of that object?
Now now come on. We weren't arguing whether omnipotence is possible (thats for another thread)
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 12:31 pm
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(October 24, 2013 at 12:29 pm)John V Wrote: Do you think god should be able to create an indivisible object, and also a half of that object?
I would cut half of the bullshit in my life and concentrate in more realistic pursuits.
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