Get In The Ark Before It Is Too Late!!!

[Fidel_Castronaut]

I do love it when theists get all fire and brimstoney on us. Because telling us how an imaginary being is going to reign down imaginary fire on us becuase we think it's a joke really does the trick on making us convert.

[JesusHChrist]

Oh I do like the fire and brimstone stuff as well. Makes my day. The comedy, the absurdity, the inane and insane fervor...

That being said, I would think, from the theist's perspective, they might pull their head out of their ass just long enough to notice, it's not working. But no... They don't seen to notice.

[The Grand Nudger]

Meh, presumably, it worked on them (otherwise one might wonder why that tune gets so much airtime), so of course they'll fall back on it after their ad hoc rationalizations fail to impress.

I'm not sure why fear is supposed to be more persuasive or impressive, in and of itself. I can't understand why anyone would want to be a little mouse, hiding from noises in the clouds -even if it were true-...and there actually is some cosmic dick pulling strings in the sky. To me, that just seems like an even better reason not to bend the knee. When did we become such pussies? Are we not telling The Man to go fuck himself anymore?

[downbeatplumb]

Where we are going there is no more need for sex.

In that case I'm out.

[Angrboda]

Yeah. That's a deal breaker for me as well. Sorry Rev. Happy trails.

[Mister Agenda]

The trick for threatening people with hell is to reserve it for people who already believe it's real.

[Cyberman]

Mr Stimbo,

Yes, Mrs Rev?

- Christians embrace both the natural and supernatural - yes, all you have experienced was the natural so the supernatural is hard to grasp

First you have to establish that the things you profess to believe and want to sell to me actually are supernatural, rather than imaginary. It's a vital first step and you keep missing it.

Then you need to demonstrate that these professed supernatural things are separate from nature (hint: if it has any bearing on natural reality at all, however slight, it becomes part of nature by definition; and thence falls squarely in the purview of scientific enquiry).

- how is your place in human society affected?

The religious doctrine you're trying to push causes you to regard people outside your circle as inferior - fallen and damned, in desperate need of saving. There's a thread around here somewhere that proves exactly this.

- I have respect for the rights of others, I just don't have to agree with everyone's decision. You too do this, do you agree with people who steal and murder?

You respect others' rights, yet you insist we shackle ourselves to your religion and condemn us, directly or indirectly, as condoning theft and murder.

- I can't think a better way to use my time or money then for God

What does your god do with this money? Does it have a PayPal account?

More seriously, though, if you have money to waste on scams like this, why not donate it to causes that actually aim to do some real good in the world?

Or I could take it off your hands, if you like.

- praying can and has cured illnesses pending on God's will

Meanwhile... http://whatstheharm.net/faithhealing.html

- The preaching of the gospel is never old and has life and hope

You're only saying that because you're seeing it through the distorting lens of your religious bubble. You might find life and hope in your special book, but the preaching of it is actually quite startlingly boring. You ever noticed someone's eyes glazing over when you start spouting biblespam? That's their face playing muzak while their brain desperately tries to open up the back of their skull and hurl itself into oncoming traffic.

[The Valkyrie]

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Mr Stimbo,

Yes, Mrs Rev?

- Christians embrace both the natural and supernatural - yes, all you have experienced was the natural so the supernatural is hard to grasp

First you have to establish that the things you profess to believe and want to sell to me actually are supernatural, rather than imaginary. It's a vital first step and you keep missing it.

Then you need to demonstrate that these professed supernatural things are separate from nature (hint: if it has any bearing on natural reality at all, however slight, it becomes part of nature by definition; and thence falls squarely in the purview of scientific enquiry).

- how is your place in human society affected?

The religious doctrine you're trying to push causes you to regard people outside your circle as inferior - fallen and damned, in desperate need of saving. There's a thread around here somewhere that proves exactly this.

- I have respect for the rights of others, I just don't have to agree with everyone's decision. You too do this, do you agree with people who steal and murder?

You respect others' rights, yet you insist we shackle ourselves to your religion and condemn us, directly or indirectly, as condoning theft and murder.

- I can't think a better way to use my time or money then for God

What does your god do with this money? Does it have a PayPal account?

More seriously, though, if you have money to waste on scams like this, why not donate it to causes that actually aim to do some real good in the world?

Or I could take it off your hands, if you like.

- praying can and has cured illnesses pending on God's will

Meanwhile... http://whatstheharm.net/faithhealing.html

- The preaching of the gospel is never old and has life and hope

You're only saying that because you're seeing it through the distorting lens of your religious bubble. You might find life and hope in your special book, but the preaching of it is actually quite startlingly boring. You ever noticed someone's eyes glazing over when you start spouting biblespam? That's their face playing muzak while their brain desperately tries to open up the back of their skull and hurl itself into oncoming traffic.

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It always amuses me when they claim the efficacy of prayer for healing people.

When you ask for citation it's never "here's video evidence of prayer curing someone of something before our eyes!".

It's always, "A friend of a friend saw", or "I witnessed" or, "We prayed for this person with cancer and they were cured!" - always ignoring the chemo and the surgeries that were also involved.

Rev: I'm scheduled to do a double valve bypass on Friday. Will my actions make the difference in the person's life or will it be the prayers of his family?"

[Ravenshire]

All those who believe...when Sodom burned with lust over those who came to rescue Lot the results were not good. I suggest take a cold shower then get in the ark. Where we are going there is no more need for sex.

hmm...never seems to work for me. I'm not going anywhere with no sex. Thanks anyways though.

No sex would not be heaven. More like pure hell!

Rev, I see you've abandoned all pretense of discussion, debate or argument. If proselytizing is all you're going to do, kindly fuck off!

[Wyrd of Gawd]

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How many people are currently on the ark? Is sex permitted on the ark? Orgies? Listen rev. I've been sexually repressed by religion my whole life bae. I'm insatiable. You want me on the ark? Make me an offer my libido can't refuse.

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All those who believe...when Sodom burned with lust over those who came to rescue Lot the results were not good. I suggest take a cold shower then get in the ark. Where we are going there is no more need for sex.

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If it was free it would be unconditional and they wouldn't need the threat of hell.

The only other place to be if you reject wanting to spend eternity with the Lord is that place prepared for Satan and his angels. Your choice mate.

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