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February 13, 2010 at 8:53 am
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 hilarious!!
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February 13, 2010 at 2:32 pm
(February 13, 2010 at 5:39 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Like I keep saying tavarish - it doesn't matter if it was real or not... the message of the story is what is really important. Like fables... the facts of the individual players is irrelevant - it's the point of the story that makes them valid. I suppose you dismiss fables too and the simple logic points they make?
I wouldn't have an issue with it if the bible just made logical points and gave general advice on life and was regarded as a story. However, a considerable majority of Christianity believe that much of the Bible is LITERAL. As in REALLY happened. It's a major issue when you have people wholeheartedly believing in something that is absolutely unfounded in the realm of scientific discovery and history. It's also a problem when people push their religious ideals on others because they are in a position of authority.
It most definitely matters if it was real or not. It outlines the basic notion that there is a difference between fact and fantasy. I can read the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, know it was a work of fiction, read between the lines, and still come out not actually believing the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is 42.
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February 13, 2010 at 4:34 pm
I think you'll find it actually a very vocal tiny minority tavarish. And I take as much issue with them as you do. Any forcing of ideals is wrong, and in Christianities case, explicitly un Christian. Christianity can never be fact... otherwise it destroys itself and you'd be happy. Christianity has to be up for question to be internally consistent. Hitchikers' Guide is just a hell of a lot more shallow and humorous.
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February 14, 2010 at 12:01 am
but an awesome book nevertheless 
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February 14, 2010 at 12:12 am
(February 13, 2010 at 4:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I think you'll find it actually a very vocal tiny minority tavarish. And I take as much issue with them as you do. Any forcing of ideals is wrong, and in Christianities case, explicitly un Christian. Christianity can never be fact... otherwise it destroys itself and you'd be happy. Christianity has to be up for question to be internally consistent. Hitchikers' Guide is just a hell of a lot more shallow and humorous.
Actually fundamentalism like Creationism is a tough on in the US. It is not a majority, but it's significant and most definitely not tiny.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm
Old-ish poll but still relevant.
40% is not tiny, and if you believe creationism is true, it's not a big leap to assume you find the rest of the book completely accurate.
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February 14, 2010 at 12:44 am
I've been in the south and there are quite a lot of creationists out there.
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February 14, 2010 at 3:52 pm
...and that's only crazy americans
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February 14, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Creationism can be found all over the world. Even in my country where the ToE has a wide acceptance we still have some very prolific creationists.
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February 16, 2010 at 10:23 pm
(February 14, 2010 at 3:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: ...and that's only crazy americans
Yeah, but America is supposed to be the #1 country.
So...... that should worry you.
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February 17, 2010 at 2:47 am
The US is owned by China anyways so our standing in awesomeness doesn't really relate much anymore 
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