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RE: Conspiracy Theories
February 17, 2010 at 2:23 pm
(February 13, 2010 at 4:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I think you'll find it actually a very vocal tiny minority tavarish. And I take as much issue with them as you do. Any forcing of ideals is wrong, and in Christianities case, explicitly un Christian. Christianity can never be fact... otherwise it destroys itself and you'd be happy. Christianity has to be up for question to be internally consistent. Hitchikers' Guide is just a hell of a lot more shallow and humorous.
I would put the hitch hikers series up against the bible any day.
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RE: Conspiracy Theories
February 17, 2010 at 2:33 pm
(February 17, 2010 at 2:23 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (February 13, 2010 at 4:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I think you'll find it actually a very vocal tiny minority tavarish. And I take as much issue with them as you do. Any forcing of ideals is wrong, and in Christianities case, explicitly un Christian. Christianity can never be fact... otherwise it destroys itself and you'd be happy. Christianity has to be up for question to be internally consistent. Hitchikers' Guide is just a hell of a lot more shallow and humorous.
I would put the hitch hikers series up against the bible any day.
Me too.
BABEL FISH :
The Babel fish is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy recieved not from its own carrier but from those around it, It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. the practical upshot of this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any language.
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anhthing so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God. The argument goes like this : "I refuse to prove that I exist", says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But", says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? it could not have evolved by chance. it proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear", says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh that was easy" says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.
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February 17, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Forming the basis of Oolan kaloofids trilogy of philosophical blockbusters:
1: Where god went wrong
2: More of gods mistakes
3: Who is this god fella anyway
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RE: Conspiracy Theories
February 17, 2010 at 2:58 pm
(February 17, 2010 at 2:23 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I would put the hitch hikers series up against the bible any day.
Sounds like a nice bookshelf 
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February 17, 2010 at 3:05 pm
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Conspiracy Theories
February 17, 2010 at 4:23 pm
(February 13, 2010 at 4:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I think you'll find it actually a very vocal tiny minority tavarish. And I take as much issue with them as you do. Any forcing of ideals is wrong, and in Christianities case, explicitly un Christian. Christianity can never be fact... otherwise it destroys itself and you'd be happy. Christianity has to be up for question to be internally consistent. Hitchikers' Guide is just a hell of a lot more shallow and humorous.
44% (creationists) of the American population is not a tiny minority. they are larger than any other like-minded group in this category and outnumber evolutionists 4 to 1. They elect our leaders and are the leaders in most cases. They try to push this crap into science class.
This is almost half of the people in the US believing that not only are the Vogons real, but they are on their way to build the hyperspace bypass.
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February 17, 2010 at 5:10 pm
I wasn't talking about that cesspit... you guys think you = the world. More delusional bullshit.
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February 17, 2010 at 5:57 pm
(February 17, 2010 at 5:10 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I wasn't talking about that cesspit... you guys think you = the world. More delusional bullshit.
I'm talking about the most influential source of mainline Christianity in the world. I agree with you that a country with a religious majority is a cesspit, though.
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February 17, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Influential how? I've heard good things this week about some AOG church revival in the US somewhere... apart from that I can name no other. I can think of churches in Africa, Indonesia, Europe, etc where good things happen. Like a UK journalist said last year - despite a large church going populous - the US is possibly the least religious place on the planet.
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RE: Conspiracy Theories
February 17, 2010 at 7:53 pm
(February 17, 2010 at 6:17 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Influential how? I've heard good things this week about some AOG church revival in the US somewhere... apart from that I can name no other. I can think of churches in Africa, Indonesia, Europe, etc where good things happen. Like a UK journalist said last year - despite a large church going populous - the US is possibly the least religious place on the planet.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/fai...igiou.html
December 16, 2009
U.S. is most religious in industrialized world
With 89 percent of the population religious and 62 percent highly so, the United States is the most religious nation in the industrialized world, according to an international survey released this week.
Religiosity remains high among all adult age groups, according to the Bertelsmann Foundation's Religion Monitor, and large majorities of Catholics and Protestants say that their religious beliefs affect their political views.
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http://www.ur.umich.edu/0304/Nov24_03/15.shtml
U.S. one of the most religious countries
By Diane Swanbrow
News Service
The United States remains among the most religious nations in the world, according to a worldwide study by the University.
About 46 percent of American adults attend church at least once a week, not counting weddings, funerals and christenings, compared with 14 percent of adults in Great Britain, 8 percent in France, 7 percent in Sweden and 4 percent in Japan.
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http://www.tourism-review.com/article/14...ous-people
Although the U.S. is not the most religious country in the world, it is much more so compared to the rest of the developed world. Some 65 per cent of U.S. citizens believe that religion is important in their daily lives. There are, however, important differences among the individual states. The most religious state is Mississippi with 85 per cent (similarly Lebanon has 86 per cent and Iran 83 per cent). On the other hand the least religious state is Vermont with 42 per cent, which is the same as in Switzerland.
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http://www.cato-unbound.org/2007/10/15/a...stitution/
America is substantively and experientially a deeply religious country, and its political discourse has always been saturated with religious rhetoric and imagery.
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