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The New York Choke Hold Case
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RE: The New York Choke Hold Case
(December 5, 2014 at 7:19 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(December 5, 2014 at 2:38 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: Alone, perhaps. The sad reality is that there are plenty of people out there who are racists and are obviously getting off on black people being gunned and choked down in the streets. You can tell who they are. They're the ones who yell SMALL GOVERNMENT out of one side of their mouths, while cheering on these appendages of BIG GOVERNMENT and starting fundraising drives for them when they gun down some "gangsta" or "thug".

The sad reality is that the moment a tool is proposed to help police the police the left starts to scream, "What good will body camera's do". Its as if you want to cry about the problem but don't want to do anything about it.

If there is one thing I agree with Obama on, its that police should be required to wear body cameras.

I've never heard anyone object to police wearing body cameras... is that really a thing?
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(December 5, 2014 at 7:29 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:
(December 5, 2014 at 7:19 pm)Heywood Wrote: The sad reality is that the moment a tool is proposed to help police the police the left starts to scream, "What good will body camera's do". Its as if you want to cry about the problem but don't want to do anything about it.

If there is one thing I agree with Obama on, its that police should be required to wear body cameras.

I've never heard anyone object to police wearing body cameras... is that really a thing?
You mean besides the police?
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(December 5, 2014 at 7:31 pm)popeyespappy Wrote:
(December 5, 2014 at 7:29 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: I've never heard anyone object to police wearing body cameras... is that really a thing?
You mean besides the police?

Hahaha! Yeah; besides the police :p

I was responding to Heywood's annoying claim that liberals object to it.
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I will admit that if you can talk, you have at least some ability to move air out of your mouth. However he still died from suffocation, so apparently he couldn't breathe enough to stay alive. His health condition doesn't matter. the fact that he could still breathe slightly doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that he suffocated to death because they were choking him after he was down.

Body cams would really be only half of it. The other half is actually punishing police for murdering people.
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(December 5, 2014 at 7:55 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I will admit that if you can talk, you have at least some ability to move air out of your mouth. However he still died from suffocation, so apparently he couldn't breathe enough to stay alive. His health condition doesn't matter. the fact that he could still breathe slightly doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that he suffocated to death because they were choking him after he was down.

Body cams would really be only half of it. The other half is actually punishing police for murdering people.

Here's a dirty little secret. A chokehold can deprive your brain of oxygen *without* completely impeding your ability to breath. The fact that he could speak is irrelevant. That simply means his airway was not blocked.

Compressing one or both carotid arteries will limit or cut off the blood flow to the brain, leading to unconsciousness and eventually cardiac arrest. Death is a predictable outcome of applying a chokehold, and it's an inevitable outcome if the hold is applied for too long.

Yeah, it's a damn good way to subdue someone. It's also very easy to kill someone, even unintentionally.
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I imagine they'll be pressuring the ME to amend his report to say he died in a "boating accident."
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(December 5, 2014 at 8:03 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(December 5, 2014 at 7:55 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I will admit that if you can talk, you have at least some ability to move air out of your mouth. However he still died from suffocation, so apparently he couldn't breathe enough to stay alive. His health condition doesn't matter. the fact that he could still breathe slightly doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that he suffocated to death because they were choking him after he was down.

Body cams would really be only half of it. The other half is actually punishing police for murdering people.

Here's a dirty little secret. A chokehold can deprive your brain of oxygen *without* completely impeding your ability to breath. The fact that he could speak is irrelevant. That simply means his airway was not blocked.

Compressing one or both carotid arteries will limit or cut off the blood flow to the brain, leading to unconsciousness and eventually cardiac arrest. Death is a predictable outcome of applying a chokehold, and it's an inevitable outcome if the hold is applied for too long.

Yeah, it's a damn good way to subdue someone. It's also very easy to kill someone, even unintentionally.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the blood vessels. You have an important blood vessel there, which is why a slash to the throat is a quick way to kill someone.
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