Should Churches Remain Tax-Exempt?

[Nope]

[quote='Chad32' pid='815343' dateline='1418253979']

No it's not violating their right to free speech. When someone says happy holidays, it includes christmas as much as every other winter solstice holiday. You can still pray in schools, because prayer to Yahweh doesn't need to be spoken.

It's most certainly a violation, to sensor any word according to the courts is illegal and that's exactly what they were doing.

Children can pray out loud if it does not disrupt others. I am sure that Little Betty can say whatever prayer she wishes to say over her lunch but the same girl can't stand up in the middle of class and offer a prayer for guidance because it would disrupt the class. That is fair and makes sense.

The only right that religious people have had removed because of paying taxes is the right of pastors/rabbis/Imams etc to urge their congregations to vote for certain politicians.

The tax status of a church or synagogue or coven doesn't have any influence on individuals' rights. The reason that teachers can't lead their students in a prayer to Cthulhu, for example, is because the government can not favor one religion over another. That has nothing at all to do with taxes.

[Thumpalumpacus]

No, you were whining. Don't start lying now.

What's that? This isn't your first lie?

Okay.

What lie whimpy, you've proved nothing other than you can run your jaw, with nothing but prejudice for anyone who's a Christian.

Here's whining:

Those are rights afforded all citizens, so now you are going to limit the freedoms of people based on taxes.

Just think about this, my church doesn't pay me, I give to the church with money that taxes have already been payed on.

@ Min, you are suggesting to intrude on our right to be separate from government snoopery.

... and so on. I bored of reading your dreck after these few examples, but they're sufficient to show that you are a little crybaby. Apparently your almighty god needs the help of mortal tax laws in order to protect his worshippers. Apparently he cannot provide for your churches the things they need.

As far as being Christian, no, I'm not prejudiced against Christians -- most of my family are Christians.

I'm prejudiced against stupidity. If you don't like that, go get yourself an education. As matters stand, you brandish your ignorance as a badge of pride.

[abaris]

... and so on. I bored of reading your dreck after these few examples...

Bold by me

OT, but I didn't you're also using that german word. Does it have the same meaning too, which would be filth?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Similar meaning -- in English, it means "trash". And yeah, there are many German roots in English; the two languages are fairly close relatives, as I'm sure you know.

[abaris]

Similar meaning -- in English, it means "trash". And yeah, there are many German roots in English; the two languages are fairly close relatives, as I'm sure you know.

That's why I always found it pretty easy to learn english. The only thing that's really different is the syntax.

[robvalue]

You want to tax syn too now?

[Cato]

In related news, no tax incentives for Kentucky ark project.

“state tourism tax incentives cannot be used to fund religious indoctrination.” [Bob Stewart, the Kentucky tourism secretary] said that the group was no longer honoring its pledge to not discriminate in hiring for the park.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/11/us/pol...s-ark.html

Edit: Can't wait for the howls of persecution.

[abaris]

In related news, no tax incentives for Kentucky ark project.

“state tourism tax incentives cannot be used to fund religious indoctrination.” [Bob Stewart, the Kentucky tourism secretary] said that the group was no longer honoring its pledge to not discriminate in hiring for the park.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/11/us/pol...s-ark.html

Edit: Can't wait for the howls of persecution.

Just what the world needs. Another site celebrating human ignorance. Beati pauperes spiritu.

[Tonus]

I think the smaller churches that struggle to pay the light bill should remain tax exempt.

I don't see why. I'm all for government not being allowed to suppress religion (within reason; if your religion requires annual sacrifices of virgin girls, the bottom of the Pacific Ocean is that way). But neither is it required to guarantee the success of religion any more than it should be required to guarantee the success of any company or any other endeavor. If you can't pay for a plot of land to build your church, the government doesn't buy you one; you're simply out-of-luck until you can scam enough sheep out of their cash.

I mean, if your church is struggling to make ends meet, then maybe that's god's way of telling you that it's time to shut the door. We wouldn't want government fucking up god's plans, would we?

[robvalue]

Checkmate fool!