Women's Position In Religion

[Minimalist]

every kid should obey their Father till they are married.

Some fathers are assholes, drippy. Yours must be a pip.

[JuliaL]

there is nothing unfair here we have different roles. Is it unfair that women are the ones made to bare children? We just have different jobs.

In my family both husband and wife bare children, generally around bath time and before they put their PJs on.

[Drich]

1st Corinthians 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

Why any woman would want to follow the bible is beyond me.

What the problem is?

If you read that passage in context it regulates what everyone can say and when.

[Spooky]

1st Corinthians 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

Why any woman would want to follow the bible is beyond me.

What the problem is?

If you read that passage in context it regulates what everyone can say and when.

Yep, sure does.

Edit: Know what? I've got a minute, let's talk about your context.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Let's take that verse in the context of the entire bible:
Plagues
Flood
Murder
Orders to murder
Sexism
Slavery
Racism
Etc.

God doesn't seem to love the world much. Or, if that's what the bible calls love, I'd not like to see hate.

[dyresand]

What the problem is?

If you read that passage in context it regulates what everyone can say and when.

Yep, sure does.

Edit: Know what? I've got a minute, let's talk about your context.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Let's take that verse in the context of the entire bible:
Plagues
Flood
Murder
Orders to murder
Sexism
Slavery
Racism
Etc.

God doesn't seem to love the world much. Or, if that's what the bible calls love, I'd not like to see hate.

Dirch wouldn't last 5 minutes as a woman in the old days of Christianity.

[Drich]

What the problem is?

If you read that passage in context it regulates what everyone can say and when.

Yep, sure does.

Edit: Know what? I've got a minute, let's talk about your context.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Let's take that verse in the context of the entire bible:
Plagues
Flood
Murder
Orders to murder
Sexism
Slavery
Racism
Etc.

God doesn't seem to love the world much. Or, if that's what the bible calls love, I'd not like to see hate.

Ooo. What fun! I love these types of challenges. I have done this one before so forgive me if I re use some of the info I used before. It's all still revelent.

So let's look at John 3:16 (even though it has absolutly nothing to do with the topic at hand and should probably be its own thread out of courtesy for the OP)

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Now first thing we need to look at is what is actually said. From your rant I take it that you believe that this passage speaks to an Omni benevolence of God. Meaning a God who loves without condition, and without limitation.

If this were the case then the passage itself would be in conflict. Because it says 'God loved the world/people in the world so much that His gift to us was to sacrifice His only Son for the redemption of sin On the condition we believe in His Son and what He taught.

Now also understand the word for love here is the greek word Agape. There are four expressions/words for love in the greek that repersent four totally seperate aspects/concepts of the one word in English we understand as simply 'love.' To boil the word of philosophy of love down to its simplist form in today's popular culture it means that the love giver always wants the easiest, and best for the receiver of love. Despite what the easy and best could mean in the future.

In the Greek this form of love is known as philia. Philia is the type of good will or well wishing one may have for a brother or friend.

God's love for us in John 3:16 is not Philia. It is Agape. Agape is generally expressed from a point of charity or help. This type of love needs no response. It is an offering, or way to help. In John 3:16 God's offering ends with His Son's death. Any benfit after what has been initially offered is conditional, and contingent on one accepting His invitation. So clearly God's love has limits, and is not meant for everyone to benefit from.

[robvalue]

Men and women are physically different, therefor men can tell women what to do? Cool.

I wonder how many women God "inspired" to write parts of the bible.

[dyresand]

Men and women are physically different, therefor men can tell women what to do? Cool.

I wonder how many women God "inspired" to write parts of the bible.

None because they weren't allowed to.

[Nope]

every kid should obey their Father till they are married.

I meant into adulthood. Some forms of Christian Reconstructionism teach that daughters should stay at home until they marry and obey their fathers even if the daughters are well into adulthood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_R...ructionism

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/r10.html

[Drich]

Once they move out, then parental control evaporates.